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I can see a bots.txt entry in the near future that discern the site's data-usage for bots vs humans
User-agent-class: AI
Data-Policy-Allow: /news/* /articles/*
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It's not about who learned what from whom, it's about superstar economy. If you serve all customers and leave nothing for the rest, it will be a problem. What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike?
> What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike? Because they are about to become obsolete, and they believe that screaming as loudly as they can is going to stop that. Their chances of success are roughly the same as if they were protesting against the law of gravity.
We make our own rules. We decide what to allow and what to value. If technology changes something, it's because we let it.
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Hoping this is what they’ll use to train future models and deprecate the older ones before the legal cases proceed any further.
The legal cases don't mean anything. The rule of law has all but disappeared from the corporate world. The idea that courts or regulators will be able to control AI is laughable. They are too corrupt, and they are way too slow.
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If you think copyright lawyers and the entertainment industry is going to let some AI upstarts launder their IP without a fight you aren't paying attention.
> AI upstarts You mean corporations that wield more power than most governments, and have revenues equivalent to the GDP of entire countries? If Universal or 20th Century Fox were to ever become a serious obstacle, Google and Microsoft are simply going to buy them. This isn't the early 2000s anymore. The power balance has shifted dramatically .
If you scrape my hobby website about photography, scuba diving or let's say baking or gardening which improves your model by let's say a delta of 0.00000000001 than shouldn't I get some free credits to use that model or proportionate share in the revenue stream? EDIT: scuba diving NOT scooba diving
What if your website contains incorrect information that makes their model worse?
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Counterpoint (not just to be annoying — I think you pose a very interesting unanswered question): If I read your hobby website about photography and use it to take 1% better pictures, do I owe you 1% of what my clients pay me? I think that probably most people would say no, assuming you could even determine that 1% in a way that both parties agreed was fair. I think generally, we have an understanding that some stuff…
Interesting point though I'd go with another analogy. You can go to a library to borrow a book, but you can't go to the library and copy all the books for your own use.
If you scrape my hobby website about photography, scuba diving or let's say baking or gardening which improves your model by let's say a delta of 0.00000000001 than shouldn't I get some free credits to use that model or proportionate share in the revenue stream? EDIT: scuba diving NOT scooba diving
scooba diving This is a bit pedantic but the term is "scuba diving". Scuba is an acronym that's short for "self contained underwater breathing apparatus". It doesn't work if you don't spell it right.
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The legal cases don't mean anything. The rule of law has all but disappeared from the corporate world. The idea that courts or regulators will be able to control AI is laughable. They are too corrupt, and they are way too slow.
The legal cases don't "mean anything" because AI training is /legal/, not because courts are "corrupt". If anything is transformative, an AI that doesn't memorize its input is.
Yeah, doesn't remember. Mhm...
Oh, it just can't remember the license terms of the code it "reads", so it can't comply with these licenses or help people to comply with these licenses.
Convenient.
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Every response so far is no i.e. the hobby website doesn't merit any compensation. A contrarian take to support the original commenter is that if the site owner had ads, i probably got him or her some increment in site visits and helped in some small way with monetization, site ranking and boosted his / her public persona, credibility. When GPT bot visits, none of that happens. Much worse - people who might have visi…
The LinkedIn case has already established the legality of scraping, so this argument falls flat too.
If you scrape my hobby website about photography, scuba diving or let's say baking or gardening which improves your model by let's say a delta of 0.00000000001 than shouldn't I get some free credits to use that model or proportionate share in the revenue stream? EDIT: scuba diving NOT scooba diving