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Qualcomm starts a RISC-V joint venture

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Re: Qualcomm starts a RISC-V joint venture

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Any insider knowledge of other chip companies culture for a someone laid off SNPS, please?

No idea what's SNPS and how to help you with that.

Ah, the stock ticker for Synopsys.

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I actually heard good things from friends working at NXP. Long term career incentives, good salary, training and incentives to collaborate to OSS… quite good signs to me

In which country/division?

Toulouse

Re: Qualcomm starts a RISC-V joint venture

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This feels like a shot across the bow in Qualcomm's fight against ARM wrt their core designs bought with Nuvia and whether Qualcomm's ARM architectural license applies to those designs. https://www.engadget.com/arm-qualcomm-lawsuit-trademark-infr...

It’s just good business to hedge your bets across all possible futures.

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Many of these devices will run Linux though, and it's becomming increasingly more common as even the low end chips are pretty capable nowadays. It could be worthwhile to build some lightweight alternative to UEFI that just handles disk identification and handing off a devtree to whatever bootloader comes after it instead of implementing the behemoth of a spec that is all of UEFI. Call it "LWFI", "light-weight firmwar…

That just sounds like uboot.

Uboot does efi. It can also just exec Linux directly. But more interesting is whether the ram training code and ring -1 layers are open source.

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x86 is locked down by Intel and AMD, and ARM demands tribute-- I mean license fees for ARM. That leaves only RISC-V for those who want to make their own processors without paying someone for the privilege. That's the value add.

> " That leaves only RISC-V for those who want to make their own processors without paying someone for the privilege. " OpenSPARC? OpenPOWER? There are plenty of solid open ISAs for anyone who wants to do that.

Why would someone use OpenSPARC rather than riscv? Seems like the Linux distros have some a-tier support for riscv64, or will soon. Debian supports SPARC right? Anyone else?

That's not even getting into upstream testing. I imagine there is more development attention to riscv tooling e.g. GCC, llvm, glibc, musl, util-linux, et cetera.

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No idea what's SNPS and how to help you with that.

Ah, the stock ticker for Synopsys.

Sorry can't speak for that. I'm mostly familiar with the semi companies in central Europe. Don't know anyone working at Synopsys.

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x86 is locked down by Intel and AMD, and ARM demands tribute-- I mean license fees for ARM. That leaves only RISC-V for those who want to make their own processors without paying someone for the privilege. That's the value add.

> " That leaves only RISC-V for those who want to make their own processors without paying someone for the privilege. " OpenSPARC? OpenPOWER? There are plenty of solid open ISAs for anyone who wants to do that.

OpenSPARC/POWER is the reason why I am not too excited about RiscV. We have had open GPL designs for close to 20 years and they just sort of went nowhere. RiscV seems to be something neat for those that design processors or work with them low level but for the general person I do not think it will result in anything amazingly different.

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> At first, the group will be focused on automotive uses Slightly ironic given how geohot has been ranting on stream non-stop for the last few days about how terrible it is to work with them for his comma.ai self-driving startup

> geohot has been ranting on stream non-stop for the last few days about how terrible it is to work with them for his comma.ai self-driving startup

For reference https://www.linkedin.com/posts/george-hotz-b3866476_comma-3x...

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/george-hotz-b3866476_qualcomm...

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> Environment is rather toxic. The salary does not compensate that. Same with NXP. Salaries and bonuses are very good(by European standards, ignore FAANG wages) but the overtime, work pressure and workplace toxicity makes that a difficult proposition if you can't stomach the ascension to the level where the REAL money starts to come in. There are indeed people at these big semi companies who can slack off and collect…

I actually heard good things from friends working at NXP. Long term career incentives, good salary, training and incentives to collaborate to OSS… quite good signs to me

NXP has bought so many companies that it depends on the unit and country a lot. Likely quite a bit of difference between former Philips and former Freescale/Motorola for example.
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