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I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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You are arguing with a straw man. Nothing in my post suggested support for any of those things. That's why I included the terms skepticism and data.

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Not OP, but if you have nothing to contribute but vitriol, maybe do not comment, and move on.

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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Unfortunately I have an anecdote, but is also a concern. I had a tooth pulled. Could have been a root canal, but whatever. (Insert sob story) The real problem was that this dentistry was quietly affiliated to the local university's dental school. Many of the students end up here. The problem, is that the dentistry IS NOT UPFRONT this is a teaching business, and not actual professionals. I found it out when I was digg…

That's just... all of medical care. The procedures are almost all done by residents and, yes, med students under supervision of a full doctor. How do you think we get new doctors? Nobody wants to be the person who is used for teaching new doctors but that's how it is.

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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It's not just the dental industry that's like this. A lot of medicine is subjective, and a lot of doctors have poor "debugging" skills and do the equivalent of print statements to try to diagnose an issue (guess and check).

I also found this with accountants. My tax affairs are semi-complicated, and every accountant I speak with has a totally different approach and advice. I think if I went to see ten, none of the advice would overlap.

I think that's more in the domain of tax attorneys than accountants.

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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>> It doesn't really matter if you see the best doctor in the world, if they can't spent the time and money running the tests you need you're not going to get a good diagnosis. Everyone in the UK should get to experience a private consultation just once. The difference between the rushed 10mins you get with the NHS and the considered 30mins you get private is amazing. You leave feeling like you’ve been taken care of…

I believe the NHS is seriously under-funded, the Tory government is responsible, and healthcare is suffering as a result. However, I do want to provide an anecdote to illustrate that private healthcare is not perfect. I had some persistent pain in my foot. Realized I wouldn't get anywhere with the NHS so I went private. The person I saw had an excellent manner. They suggested some fairly gnarly surgery. Said I should…

As a percentage of GDP, the UK has the 6th highest healthcare spending of OECD countries, on par with Switzerland. The UK is not an outlier in terms of spending.

https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=SHA

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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A couple years ago my dentist sold her practice to a new dentist. Before I had an appointment with the new dentist, my wife had an appointment, and he told her she had gum disease with bone loss and needed a deep cleaning and to go on a "periodontal schedule" where she would have to come in every three months instead of six. (Note: My wife and I have different last names and separate insurance, so he wouldn't have kn…

I had the same exact thing happen to me and my wife. We’ve learned since then that this is a common scam by dental clinics.

Did they try to sign you up for a “care” credit card too?

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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If you have an ongoing problem of plaque/tartar build up on your teeth then this BBC article[1] could be a life changer for you. It was for me. After a year of doing it right my gums are now close to perfect. I notice though that neither my hygenist's or my dentist's office has been handing out information about this approach. Not good for business perhaps. I believe this technique works via abrasion so toothpaste is…

Holding at 45 degs is what the instructions in my electric toothbrush recommended, so it seems it is commonplace now.

Re: I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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My experience with dentists in France has always been good, but as I moved to the US I noticed that suddenly I was having cavities, suddenly floss was important (when studies say that they don't add any value), suddenly I had to take X-rays every 6 months, suddenly I was being pushed on doing aesthetic changes, suddenly I was seeing insane bills that had no connection with the service I was getting.

I'm convinced that regulators should take a look at (ortho)dentists in the US, it's one of the most scammy group of people.

Also, I'm so happy that invisalign is being disrupted by all these online companies like SmileDirectClub/Byte/NewSmile/Candid/etc. It's literally the exact same service but you'll find plenty of FUD online about it. Can't wait for invisalign to die.

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