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Re: Sync for Lemmy

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Post by rglullis »

corrigible wrote: post #48
kramerger wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, speaking from experience... most people are waiting for a client that doesn't suck before moving away from reddit.

I've jumped completely over to lemmy and am mulling writing a bot to replicate external content to my instance (from e.g., unmigrated subreddits); the UX is fantastic though, tons of original content with almost zero spam. scaling the network seems hard as every event is a POST request (lol) but the community will persevere and overcome this imo

Did you look into https://lemmit.online?

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#52

Post by d0gbread »

izzydata wrote: post #27

I'm going to have to give this one a huge thumbs down. Injecting ads into a free and open source webapp that previously did not have any just to get people to buy your ad free version is the kind of thing Lemmy is trying to get away from. This is quite unacceptable in my opinion. If the developer removes the ad-ridden version and only makes a single purchase paid version then it would be acceptable as you would be bu…

Curious how you would prefer this be resolved? Or are you just saying you would have made different decisions and it's fine that Sync is doing what Sync is doing?

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#53

Post by rglullis »

d0gbread wrote: post #5
danielbln wrote: post #2

Sync has been my mobile Reddit driver for over a decade and when Reddit dialed its enshitification to eleven and banned third party clients I immediately jumped over to Lemmy, but the available clients weren't quite up to snuff. Good for how new they were (e.g. Voyager) but Sync is a very mature app. Having Sync for Lenny has been great so far, it feels like a lesser populated Reddit, for all intents and purposes, an…

My experience also. To your last paragraph, I don't quite gel with the open source nature of so much of the ecosystem. The core framework being open source makes a lot of sense to me, but the instances being essentially volunteers makes me nervous about future burnout and lack of longevity. I'm not saying one way is right or wrong, just that it's something I'm watching and forming opinions around, and current state g…

I guess you will be interested in taking a look at https://communick.news/post/23471

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#54

Post by corrigible »

rglullis wrote: post #51
corrigible wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've jumped completely over to lemmy and am mulling writing a bot to replicate external content to my instance (from e.g., unmigrated subreddits); the UX is fantastic though, tons of original content with almost zero spam. scaling the network seems hard as every event is a POST request (lol) but the community will persevere and overcome this imo

Did you look into https://lemmit.online ?

oh wow, thanks for this!

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#55

Post by heyoni »

paulcole wrote: post #35
danielbln wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instances might go away, but not the Fediverse itself. See IRC, email and so on.

But that’s like saying Gmail can go away but email itself lives on. Technically true but the Gmail users are gonna be pissed.

Still a step forward. Right now Reddit is like facebook messenger, doesn't interact with anything. If it goes away, it's 100% gone. If your phone carrier disappears, you might have to change your number but you could still text anyone in your phonebook.

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#56

Post by mdaniel »

rglullis wrote: post #51
corrigible wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've jumped completely over to lemmy and am mulling writing a bot to replicate external content to my instance (from e.g., unmigrated subreddits); the UX is fantastic though, tons of original content with almost zero spam. scaling the network seems hard as every event is a POST request (lol) but the community will persevere and overcome this imo

Did you look into https://lemmit.online ?

I would encourage you to post that as a separate submission, since I have so many questions (https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=lemmit.online shows nothing)

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#57

Post by d0gbread »

BaseballPhysics wrote: post #22
d0gbread wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might not be wrong but I wouldn't mind seeing some actual data on the topic (admittedly have not looked). Google feels like a cheap example since their non-ads business model is to throw mud at the wall, and the graveyard is full of tech that did often make it into core apps. I've been on Gmail since forever, which stands as a Google-backed example of my previous comment sans some serious but statistically insign…

I would claim the early web diminished primarily because the users left, not because the services died off and left users stranded (though I'll note that a lot of early services--IRC, Usenet, message boards, blogs, etc, are still around, though reduced in size and scope). As for services dying, I picked Google because it was easy. But the graveyard is endless: Myspace, Friendster, and Geocities all spring to mind, ju…

I'm certainly not advocating for a single point of failure, but rather a monetized, competitive space that competes on user experience. More akin to music streaming than movie streaming.

I think Usenet and forum numbers probably pale in comparison to Reddit type platforms. Centralization is easier for mass appeal

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#58

Post by izzydata »

d0gbread wrote: post #52
izzydata wrote: post #27

I'm going to have to give this one a huge thumbs down. Injecting ads into a free and open source webapp that previously did not have any just to get people to buy your ad free version is the kind of thing Lemmy is trying to get away from. This is quite unacceptable in my opinion. If the developer removes the ad-ridden version and only makes a single purchase paid version then it would be acceptable as you would be bu…

Curious how you would prefer this be resolved? Or are you just saying you would have made different decisions and it's fine that Sync is doing what Sync is doing?

Simple. You get rid of the free with ads version and then sell the software for whatever amount of money. Or if there has to be a free version it wouldn't have ads. It would just not have the pro features which you would have to pay for.

Ads are not a necessary business model.

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#59

Post by neurostimulant »

paulcole wrote: post #35
danielbln wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instances might go away, but not the Fediverse itself. See IRC, email and so on.

But that’s like saying Gmail can go away but email itself lives on. Technically true but the Gmail users are gonna be pissed.

At least when an instance is gone, their contents are still exist in the federated instances. The problem is those contents are now detached from the fediverse at large. Would be nice if there is a way to mark one of the federated instance as the new home for those contents to restart federation again.

Re: Sync for Lemmy

#60

Post by d0gbread »

izzydata wrote: post #58
d0gbread wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious how you would prefer this be resolved? Or are you just saying you would have made different decisions and it's fine that Sync is doing what Sync is doing?

Simple. You get rid of the free with ads version and then sell the software for whatever amount of money. Or if there has to be a free version it wouldn't have ads. It would just not have the pro features which you would have to pay for. Ads are not a necessary business model.

I understand that is an option, but the way you say he's profiting off free content made it sound like it should be someone's choice other than the developers to dictate how he should or shouldn't monetize. But given your response now I'm thinking you mean you just wouldn't pick it.

The fact many people would, that Lemmy isn't affected one way or another, etc, makes it seem more like preference than morals or something. Just getting a lay of the land of the hate Sync is getting (on Lemmy, too).

It comes across as "we don't profit [like that/at all] so you shouldn't either". But as someone that doesn't see it as unethical, I just see user choice, and in this one case a paid plan subsidized by users that don't mind the ads.

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