It will be interesting to see whether Snap-like filters running locally and other facial feature obfuscation tech will cross over to enable opting out more drastically.
Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
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#22Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!
Actually, they only affect their hosted meet.jit.si service, right? Not if you self-host Jitsi on your own server (which you should if you're a medium-large company, for data protection and all that)
Of course. If you run it yourself, you're free to train your neural nets on your users, if that's something you want to do
For restrictions on what you can do with the code, you'll need to check the code's license, not the hosted-service's terms of use
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#23Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!
+1 for Jitsi. They are awesome, lightweight, and just work with the least hassle.
Pretty bad that many nontechnical users are not aware of it compared to Google Meet or Teams.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#24I am curious if they have been silently saving voice to text transcription in the background on all calls and if AI will be permitted to ingest all of that data. A great deal could be learned from private one on one calls in the corporate world. The insider knowledge one could gain about corporations and governments would be fascinating.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#2510.2 … You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software. You consent to Zoom’s access, use, collection, creation, modification, distribution, processing, sharing, maintenance, and storage of Service Generated Data for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law, including for the purpose of product and se…
Before that: > Customer Content does not include any telemetry data, product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content or data that Zoom collects or generates in connection with your or your End Users’ use of the Services or Software (“Service Generated Data”). I could be wrong, but my take is that there is not all that much to see here
Zoom is giving itself the right to collect video and audio of you that could be used today to deepfake your voice in a convincing way.
It won't be long before the video deepfakes are convincing too.
This is absolutely awful and terrifying.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#2610.2 … You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software. You consent to Zoom’s access, use, collection, creation, modification, distribution, processing, sharing, maintenance, and storage of Service Generated Data for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law, including for the purpose of product and se…
"..for any purpose", how is this ever supposed to fly in the EU or UK? Should be opt-in, not in the small print, and entirely optional.
“…for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law”
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#2710.2 … You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software. You consent to Zoom’s access, use, collection, creation, modification, distribution, processing, sharing, maintenance, and storage of Service Generated Data for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law, including for the purpose of product and se…
Before that: > Customer Content does not include any telemetry data, product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content or data that Zoom collects or generates in connection with your or your End Users’ use of the Services or Software (“Service Generated Data”). I could be wrong, but my take is that there is not all that much to see here
It's section 10.4 that says they can use "Customer Content" for AI training.
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#28Isn't this a huge legal minefield when you think about schools using zoom for online learning?
And hospitals and doctor's offices and lawyers and...
Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out
#29Does that include corporate zoom contracts?
Regardless, you should complain to your org about this. I’m sure it’s where all their (Zoom’s) revenue comes from. If enough of us do it, they will listen.
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#3010.2 … You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software. You consent to Zoom’s access, use, collection, creation, modification, distribution, processing, sharing, maintenance, and storage of Service Generated Data for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law, including for the purpose of product and se…
Before that: > Customer Content does not include any telemetry data, product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content or data that Zoom collects or generates in connection with your or your End Users’ use of the Services or Software (“Service Generated Data”). I could be wrong, but my take is that there is not all that much to see here
It's hard to understand what they mean. I understand it as they're free to generate "Service Generated Data" based on “Customer Content”.
So for example, a compressed rendition of a call recording would be "Service Generated Data" and thus they will be free to do whatever they want with it (improve their caption generation models ... or sell it to someone?).