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America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels."

Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are beginning to secure basic human rights for themselves."

Re: America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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> Lynn Kelley, a business consultant who recently published a book, said she was worried about a possible UPS strike affecting the book’s distribution, including large bulk shipments for some upcoming events. “There might have been some delays,” said Kelley, adding that her book is on Amazon, which handles shipping. “My concern is even if Amazon does use an alternative to UPS, everything will be slow because there’s not a lot of extra capacity.”

Is this the reporter's friend, or something? Really bizarre thing to put in the middle of the article, completely irrelevant and just feels like a subtle ad for this person's book.

Re: America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

I don't normally engage with these kinds of comments but today I guess I'm extra curious: why is "paid sick leave" a "basic human right."?

I don't disagree that it's a good and moral thing to offer, I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

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post #5

"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

I don't normally engage with these kinds of comments but today I guess I'm extra curious: why is "paid sick leave" a "basic human right."? I don't disagree that it's a good and moral thing to offer, I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

>I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

From here:

>it's a good and moral thing to offer,

What is the minimum quality of life you want for your children?

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't normally engage with these kinds of comments but today I guess I'm extra curious: why is "paid sick leave" a "basic human right."? I don't disagree that it's a good and moral thing to offer, I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

>I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from? From here: >it's a good and moral thing to offer, What is the minimum quality of life you want for your children?

But there are lots of things that are good and moral to offer that aren't human rights.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from? From here: >it's a good and moral thing to offer, What is the minimum quality of life you want for your children?

But there are lots of things that are good and moral to offer that aren't human rights.

Yes, societies around the world still have lots of improvements that can be made, and probably can keep improving forever.

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post #5

"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

I don't normally engage with these kinds of comments but today I guess I'm extra curious: why is "paid sick leave" a "basic human right."? I don't disagree that it's a good and moral thing to offer, I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

…secure basic human rights for themselves.

This isn’t a claim that everyone agrees this is literally a basic human right. It’s a colloquialism to emphasize the author’s view that this is something that should have been granted to the workers long ago and that it is appalling that it wasn’t.

Please don’t get hung up on semantics. Use a different phrasing if it pleases you to do so.

Re: America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

I don't normally engage with these kinds of comments but today I guess I'm extra curious: why is "paid sick leave" a "basic human right."? I don't disagree that it's a good and moral thing to offer, I'm just curious about where these universally agreed upon "basic human rights" come from?

If you don’t get paid when you are sick, you are in essence being punished for being sick.

Not being punished for being sick is a basic human right.

The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights entered into force in 1976. The human rights that the Covenant seeks to promote and protect include:

the right to work in just and favourable conditions;

the right to social protection, to an adequate standard of living and to the highest attainable standards of physical and mental well-being;

the right to education and the enjoyment of benefits of cultural freedom and scientific progress.

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