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The "everyone:1" ratio of internet criticism also has had an interesting effect on politics. Given the sheer amount of vitriol directed at politicians no sane person would run for election. A plausible base-case scenario is a group of socially disabled internet dwellers dedicate their life to hounding you for imagined wrongs. Let alone the pressure of making any decision in a situation where large groups of people ar…
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Interestingly, the most successful politicians in recent years have adopted the techniques of old-school internet trolls. It goes like this: 1. Do or say something that's a bit edgy and controversial. 2. Pull out a lawn chair as the opposition attempts to stir up a shit storm. 3. Under no circumstances engage with the criticism directed at you, just be somewhere else when anything is coming your way. Never defend or…
Finally someone spells it out. Ever since the first twitter US president I've noticed a great uptick in politicians and other public figures doing deplorable things for the sake of attention. They'd be publically called out and ridiculed for months on end, and meanwhile you wouldn't hear anything about other people at all. There's nothing I can describe this as other than "trolling", yet people always look at me conf…
The "everyone:1" ratio of internet criticism also has had an interesting effect on politics. Given the sheer amount of vitriol directed at politicians no sane person would run for election. A plausible base-case scenario is a group of socially disabled internet dwellers dedicate their life to hounding you for imagined wrongs. Let alone the pressure of making any decision in a situation where large groups of people ar…
> As a result I think we'll see detectable pressure for only risk taking narcissists to run for public office. Even beyond what is usual for politics. I love the word "detectable" thrown in here for good scientistic measure. What exactly do you claim you'll be measuring here?
With benefit of hindsight now that we have a few years of opinion polling, we might suspect that he isn't actually the best that the party could come up with, and that there are a number of much better candidates who are choosing not to run. He is wildly unpopular and would basically only beat the previous generally-unliked president Trump.
I don't think that is normal. We've had 2 electoral cycles now where only unelectable candidates stood up. As recently as 2007 we had the likes of Obama, and before that Clinton (who say what you will, had approval polling that trended in the right direction) out of the Democrats. And Bush was popular until the chickens came home to roost on the horrific foreign policy blunders.
So we can detect that something has gone wrong in the last few electoral cycles where either the quality of the candidates has declined or the visibility into what the government is actually doing has improved. I argue both, but today I'm focusing on the former.
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So you're saying there's no examples, meaning that you're actually claiming such subreddits don't exist
From your comment history on vaccines and illness I presume you are more familiar than I with far-right subreddits. Perhaps you should list a few here to satisfy yourself, since I won't be entertaining the question.
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...I think we'll see detectable pressure for only risk taking narcissists to run for public office. Even beyond what is usual for politics... I know you added the "even beyond what is usual" part, but I think it's been clear since way before the US existed that decent people dont pursue power.
I reject the notion that no decent person seeks to lead. I agree it is hard to stay in power without getting your hands dirty, but many good people have been leaders. And to normalize the idea otherwise would be a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy.
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You have now in this thread accused two HN members of being far right… while being completely incapable of linking far right activity on Reddit you claim is all over the place. You may have a religion you aren’t aware of.
Again, you think a subreddit purpose-built around supporting lifelong con man isn't far-right. Not even after he has been indicted for insurrection and stealing secret documents is it clear to you.
The "everyone:1" ratio of internet criticism also has had an interesting effect on politics. Given the sheer amount of vitriol directed at politicians no sane person would run for election. A plausible base-case scenario is a group of socially disabled internet dwellers dedicate their life to hounding you for imagined wrongs. Let alone the pressure of making any decision in a situation where large groups of people ar…
10% of US presidents were assassinated and 20% of them had assassination attempts. Congressmen have been assassinated, judges, state politicians, mayors. If you go into politics, getting made fun of on the internet is the least of your worries, you're going to need a thick skin. If someone is making fun of you on Twitter, at least you've got name recognition.
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Yeah, that's the point. Create a negative outcome for companies that perform politically biased censorship, as many do. It gained a ton of popularity during covid because so many were against the government banning public assembly. Yet the only remaining avenues for broad speech censored views that went against the CDC's demands
> [have the government] Create a negative outcome for companies that perform politically biased censorship Let’s not leave out an important few words.
The risk comes completely from their members and the ones who may sue them
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Reddit is far worse than human nature, I believe. The upvote and downvote system favours people that are authoritarian (as a personality trait). There is this sect like wibe nowadays on Reddit.
I don't think voting is related. There are some subreddits that do have quality content, but this requires a substantial moderation effort. The *chan sites are even worse than Reddit, and there's no user voting AFAIK. Slashdot had a voting system before Reddit, and the discussion there is mostly civilized. Usenet didn't have a voting system, and the discussions were civilized before Eternal September, when users gene…
Imageboards push actually contrarianism to some degree as it gets more replies (the only metric equivalent to a voting system)
> In reality we already practice social media consent; it is not unusual to ask a friend if they’re alright with having a picture posted Is this common practice? The author keeps insisting it is. I don’t think it is, I think the author is just a member of a particularly inclined friend group. It would be a nice consideration but I can honestly say I have never asked nor been asked. I’ve certainly asked after the fact…