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Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by flangola7 »

ransackdev wrote: post #23

I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing s…

None of this is new. Blocking is not even that strong of an action, ISIS domains are straight up seized and taken possession of by the United States.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by null0pointer »

ur-whale wrote: post #62

DNS is the _one_ thing that needs to be based on bitcoin type tech so as to forever escape any attempt at centralized control. Also, being able as an end user to easily choose where you get your name resolution from is essential. The whole idea of root DNS servers is utterly broken.

I don’t understand why ENS doesn’t support normal record types (A, AAAA, etc.) Support for these was in the original design for ENS. I hope we see more support for alternative roots in the future. Brave browser, which is already fairly crypto-friendly, could add an ENS resolver for example. Maybe this is something someone could build as a browser extension?

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by azangru »

thejazzman wrote: post #45
mdekkers wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything…

Please correct me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying bad actors have an inherent right to exercise their bad actions? It's on every individual to defend themselves against whatever harm is being inflicted, and society should stand by because, again, inherent right to be awful should be protected?

> bad actors have an inherent right to exercise their bad actions? It's on every individual to defend themselves against whatever harm is being inflicted, and society should stand by because, again, inherent right to be awful should be protected?

I don't know about the right to be awful; but there is something deeply unsettling about governments not trusting their people to decide for themselves what kind of information they want to access. Centuries ago, people weren't trusted to read Wycliffe's translation of the Bible. In the Soviet Union, people weren't allowed to read The Gulag Archipelago. Now it's RT. It's preposterous.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by trinsic2 »

brightlancer wrote: post #29
pmontra wrote: post #19

Isn't everything on YouTube for free? Then downloading is as simple as any software that extracts audio tracks from a YT video.

Youtube serves the audio and video separately; yt-dlp (the successor to youtube-dl) can download only the audio part, so there isn't any extraction necessary. Honestly, I don't understand "piracy" much anymore -- almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge. If something has been censored or banned (or the owner refuses to sell it anymore), then that's a different st…

I definitely want to be in ownership of the things I purchase. With streaming services your content can be taken away from you. No thanks.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by zdragnar »

matrix_overload wrote: post #48
thejazzman wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please correct me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying bad actors have an inherent right to exercise their bad actions? It's on every individual to defend themselves against whatever harm is being inflicted, and society should stand by because, again, inherent right to be awful should be protected?

The idea is that people should have the skill of critically assessing the information they see, not trusting it by default, and knowing how to verify it. Like, check for conflicts of interest, historical precedents, correlate independent sources, etc. This skill only develops if people have to deal with lies on a daily basis. If we delegate the function of telling what's a truth and what's a lie to a 3rd party, it qu…

> This skill only develops if people have to deal with lies on a daily basis.

It's called critical thinking, and applies to every facet of life. A person can honestly believe what they are saying, but their belief is not, on its own, evidence that what they are saying is true.

I think schools in the US don't really teach critical thinking, so much as regurgitation. I almost wish schools required a full semester course of debate, pushing students to craft arguments both for and against various topics. I suspect our politics might look a lot different if people were generally more skeptical of the things they're told to just accept.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

ransackdev wrote: post #23

I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing s…

"We need to wake up"

Maybe stop relying on third party DNS 24/7.

Most web users visit the same sites over and over, at a frequency of several times per month or even per week.

Few of these sites are changing their IP addresses with the same frequency. Some (most, based on personal experience) will go years without a change in address.

Yet people keep looking up the addresses every single day if not more frequently.

Google censors all the time. Search results are manipuated in ways that are optimised for advertising, not accesibility of information. Perhaps it's subtle enough that people do not notice. Popularity is not necessarily a proxy for truth. But for a so-called "tech" company, popularity is almost always the most important metric. Because advertising.

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Post by greensh »

JackGreyhat wrote: post #52
sgift wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean rt.com? I just accessed that cesspool and Germany is part of the EU, so .. nope. Not banned.

I just checked and cannot reach RT from Germany, using the ISP provided DNS server. I think that is key.

I tried using german isp dns, rt.com is blocked.

That's shocking.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by mlindner »

ransackdev wrote: post #23

I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing s…

I think the title is actually incorrect. It’s not that it’s been blocked globally, just that a relatively small German dns resolver was ordered to block it wherever they acted.

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Post by thejazzman »

inetknght wrote: post #51
matrix_overload wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is that people should have the skill of critically assessing the information they see, not trusting it by default, and knowing how to verify it. Like, check for conflicts of interest, historical precedents, correlate independent sources, etc. This skill only develops if people have to deal with lies on a daily basis. If we delegate the function of telling what's a truth and what's a lie to a 3rd party, it qu…

> people should have the skill of critically assessing the information they see, not trusting it by default, and knowing how to verify it Unfortunately, in America and I imagine abroad, those skills have been actively eroded so as to favor of consumerism. Moreover, the tools to pull one over on your fellow man have gotten more and more sophisticated such that you cannot trust recorded voices to be real, you cannot tr…

Not to mention health conditions that prohibit people from sharing the mental capacity of people on here.

Or let's get specific. My 96yo great aunt with Alzheimer's who has been repeatedly preyed upon.

I'm kind of shocked and disappointed to see these attitudes amongst my colleagues. I thought we cared about each other.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

azangru wrote: post #73
thejazzman wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please correct me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying bad actors have an inherent right to exercise their bad actions? It's on every individual to defend themselves against whatever harm is being inflicted, and society should stand by because, again, inherent right to be awful should be protected?

> bad actors have an inherent right to exercise their bad actions? It's on every individual to defend themselves against whatever harm is being inflicted, and society should stand by because, again, inherent right to be awful should be protected? I don't know about the right to be awful; but there is something deeply unsettling about governments not trusting their people to decide for themselves what kind of informat…

If democratically elected governments don't trust the judgement of their constituents, then neither can they believe in the legitimacy of democratically elected governments.
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