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Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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post #22

The harder Sony screams, the better things are going in general. This effort was pathetic and ineffective, just like every attempt Sony has made to combat piracy. If only they spent all that effort and money improving the user experience when accessing their products instead of something doomed to failure.

it’s entertaining to watch Sony throw these tantrums after one of their prime complaints with the Activision + Microsoft merger was how it might give Microsoft exclusivity for CoD while forgetting how much they love exclusivity for Playstation titles.

The problem is Microsoft has leverage in other areas. I understand Sony's nervousness.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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post #19

Isn't everything on YouTube for free? Then downloading is as simple as any software that extracts audio tracks from a YT video.

Youtube serves the audio and video separately; yt-dlp (the successor to youtube-dl) can download only the audio part, so there isn't any extraction necessary. Honestly, I don't understand "piracy" much anymore -- almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge. If something has been censored or banned (or the owner refuses to sell it anymore), then that's a different st…

> I don't understand "piracy" much anymore

For music I agree for the most part. Tons of music is both available on streaming services, and for sale as a DRM-free download. The rest of the entertainment industry hasn't figured that last part out yet, unfortunately.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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I don’t understand why they go on DNS level.

The web is hosted somewhere, the actual files are hosted somewhere (on a different site), yet they don’t go after either of these actual websites but after a DNS resolver? That’s just weird.

On the other hand my country now DNS-blocks Russia Today so I guess it’s just the minimal viable block

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing s…

> Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything…

I used to be a free speech absolutist, but now I believe phylosophical principles exist in service of humanity, not the other way around. If you consider that the goal of russian propaganda is to help Russia succeed in genocide of a 40 million nation, I think it should be fairly easy to handle some censorship, at least until genocide is stopped.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything…

I used to be a free speech absolutist, but now I believe phylosophical principles exist in service of humanity, not the other way around. If you consider that the goal of russian propaganda is to help Russia succeed in genocide of a 40 million nation, I think it should be fairly easy to handle some censorship, at least until genocide is stopped.

What philosophical principle justifies censorship, which is just propaganda through ommision?

How can someone decide for themselves that they agree something is bad, if they aren't allowed to see it, or even know it exists?

I don't think there is any philosophical principle that resloves to "and therefor we should commit ignorance"

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing s…

> Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything…

Russia Today as a television network is banned because you need a license to broadcast and that license can be revoked when it is found that the network broadcasts only propaganda that has nothing to do with reality.

On the other hand, the website of Russia Today is not blocked though it does have some intermittent ddos problems.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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post #33

I don’t understand why they go on DNS level . The web is hosted somewhere, the actual files are hosted somewhere (on a different site), yet they don’t go after either of these actual websites but after a DNS resolver? That’s just weird. On the other hand my country now DNS-blocks Russia Today so I guess it’s just the minimal viable block

The DNS provider has some German presence, and the site and its hosting don't. The serving of torrent magnet links alone is not illegal in most Europe.

Re: Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

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post #19

Isn't everything on YouTube for free? Then downloading is as simple as any software that extracts audio tracks from a YT video.

Youtube serves the audio and video separately; yt-dlp (the successor to youtube-dl) can download only the audio part, so there isn't any extraction necessary. Honestly, I don't understand "piracy" much anymore -- almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge. If something has been censored or banned (or the owner refuses to sell it anymore), then that's a different st…

> almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge

The majority of TV shows and movies that I watch are unavailable on streaming services. I know there's some more specialty streaming services for film these days, but besides that, it seems like its mostly well-known classics, anything mainstream from the past 20 years, or new releases that are available.

I solely credit piracy for enabling my appreciation of film and TV. I was never a big fan of either until I got access to a huge catalog and started watching classics that are not popular enough for streaming services to pickup.

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