Reminds me of something similar in Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson.
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Yes, and when you multiply per capita by population, you end up with China and India emitting over double what the United States emits. There is also the delta to take into account. Industrialized countries are decarbonizing and switching to renewables, while industrializing countries are building new coal plants.
It's not exactly fair for industrialized nations to have taken advantage of the externality of their historic carbon emissions, but then prevent developing nations from doing the same. The ethical solution would be for industrialized nations to subsidize the development and decarbonization of developing nations.
Too bad the atomic energy commission is so tight lipped about proliferating reactor designs. The third world could have been powered with atomic energy by the 1980s if we didnt subscribe to cold war us vs them thinking (which our top brass continues to subscribe to even if the general populace hasn’t given a shit about the cold war since before Vietnam).
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Public transportation still requires you to go to the bus stop in the rain. I'm also unsure what the proposed solution to Bob being 10 miles away is. Should I only make friends with people who work at the same place?
If rain were a major impediment to functioning Ireland and NL should be abandoned. But it isn't. Rain is a minor nuisance. As for your friendships: in the past people would usually be good friends with people living close to them because they lacked transport. I have friends all over the world on account of the internet and I'm well aware that going to visit them is in many cases out of the question. That's much easi…
It's just unreasonable to suggest people not visit their friends within the same metro area
Re: Reduction of sulfur emissions from ships may be causing rising sea temperatures
#444Reminds me of something similar in Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_Shock_(novel)
Does he do that thing where 1/2 or 3/4 of the way though he resets the story completely leaving you with absolutely no emotional attachment to the resolution of the plot?
*Cough*seveneves, fall or dodge....those are the only ones I could stand more than a few pages. Sorry I just cannot bear to read anymore of his novels. The first few pages of Anathem I can hear him building a house in his own anal cavity. We get it, Niel, you know some big words. We all do.
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#445The enthusiasm with geoengineering among the HN community is worrisome. Not sure which computing analogy would drive home the complete recklessness of this mentality but the Earth is not something you can reboot to the last working state once you harebrained patch implodes. It is true that we have been slowly geoengineering for ages (initially unwittingly, recently with eyes wide open) and it is also true that our mo…
How are you going to convince Asia and Africa to stop their economic growth? How are you going to convince Americans to stop driving Ford F150s? How are you going to convince Europeans to stop doing vacations that involves long-distance flights to exotic faraway countries? Geoengineering is the only solution.
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>That is why discussions around such technological silver bullets are always toxic: people want to believe. On the flip side, some people reject technological solutions on principle because for them, it's not about solving problems, it's about atoning for the sins of humanity. What does the alternative future look like where we solve the climate crisis by changing the way we live and organize society? Personally, I w…
It's not about religion, but about empathy and justice. Some people actually think that other forms of life on this planet have a right to exist, and there's no question at all that human life has been catastrophically bad for virtually every other form of life on this Earth. You can't just apply an energy patch and presto-reverso the carbon content in the atmosphere; we've managed to seriously disrupt global ecosyst…
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#447Climate models take this into account [0], contrary to what some people here seem to imply. It is also very likely that this is part of, but not the major factor of recent warming. [1] I would like to point out that this is not something we're just figuring out "this week" as Hank Green seems to want to frame it. There's no need to sensationalize. There is no conspiracy here. This is well known. It's good to educate…
yeah unfortunately if some people are click-baity it makes it where basically everyone has to be if they want to maximize their views/revenue on YouTube.
> ...if they want to maximize their views/revenue on YouTube.
Thankfully YouTube is not the only way of educating people.
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>That is why discussions around such technological silver bullets are always toxic: people want to believe. On the flip side, some people reject technological solutions on principle because for them, it's not about solving problems, it's about atoning for the sins of humanity. What does the alternative future look like where we solve the climate crisis by changing the way we live and organize society? Personally, I w…
We have enough resources to provide heating and running water for every living person on Earth, it is just not allocated fairly and smartly (e.g. in my country we flush the toilet with very good grade water meant for drinking, because historically we don’t have separate piping for less potable water and we are rich in waters). But do we really need to be able to order some bullshit plastic shit from China for 2 dolla…
Just tax carbon and everyone can decide with their wallets just how much they want to eat meat or imported Peruvian fruits
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Read counts: Snow Crash (3) The Diamond Age (1) Anathem (2) Cryptonomicon (3/4) Baroque cycle (2/3) Seveneves (2) Reamde (2) The rise and fall of D.O.D.O (9/10) Fall or Dodge in hell (1/2) Termination shock (1/3)
Are the fractions ongoing efforts or did you drop it? re-reads for me: Diamond Age (4) (I'm an educator), Cryptonomicon (2), Baroc cycle (2) However i plan to re-read Anathem in paralell with my second re-read of Russels A History of Western Philosophy. Really looking forward to this one.
Unfortunately I can't get as into the later ones, so those are me giving up
Re: Reduction of sulfur emissions from ships may be causing rising sea temperatures
#450Climate models take this into account [0], contrary to what some people here seem to imply. It is also very likely that this is part of, but not the major factor of recent warming. [1] I would like to point out that this is not something we're just figuring out "this week" as Hank Green seems to want to frame it. There's no need to sensationalize. There is no conspiracy here. This is well known. It's good to educate…
It's well known among scientists.
But global warming is a very major political issue, and those who determine what will be done about it - voters and politicians - have on average zero clues about it.