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well i am making that argument and im not implying any thing. >> observing and reporting what they do in public.<< try this for real, you wont like what the observed response is.
What do you think journalists and reporters do? Is their work immoral?
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There's a reason I don't use Google products and block Google IP addresses. And I still expect that videos of me showering and the gym would not be posted online. It's not about who owns the property, it's about whether I'm in a place where I can be seen by the public.
Anyone is free to sign up to the gym and go to the showers. And it’s not about Google specifically. Any server is located out in what is essentially public. When you connect over the internet, you’re essentially leaving your house to go to that server. Let’s say you used radio waves to operate a robot on a public street. Would it be invasive for those nearby to look at the robot? According to you, yes it would be bec…
Just look at /r/tinder: people just casually posting screenshots of ostensibly private conversations with the person's face & first name visible. It's frankly ridiculous.
Social media truly is the opioid of today's society. While browsing /r/all, I ran across a post from a very popular sub which had an airport worker stripping in the airport, flailing on the floor, etc. No one knows why, could have been drugs, could have been a mental defect. Yet many of the thousands of responses were laughing because they could see the man's flaccid penis. While we don't know what caused the man to…
There was a post the other day by a wife who briefly saw messages between her husband and some 16 year old. They seemed 'intimate'. All the comments condemned him as a vile pedophile. A day later, she writes that it turned out the girl was her husband's daughter. That he'd only recently found out about her.
We judge as if we're any better than these people. We're not.
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I know I'm not saying anything new here, but I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is, especially from a group who considers themselves highly intelligent (compared to those "other" people). Videos like you describe are there every time I visit, along with fight videos and comments making up a back story as to what the victim did to deserve it, etc. Sometimes I wonder why things like vigilanteis…
The backstory ones are amazing. It's like an LLM were set free. "He probably stalked her from the age of 12 and waited till she was 19 before he bought her an ice cream of the flavour her mum liked before she died. All so that she'd invite him to this party where he could fight this other guy. Imagine you think this guy is a friend and he only became your friend because he hated someone else. As someone with trauma b…
Part of the problem is, we tend to ignore age. That sort of post could have been made by a 9 year old.
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Anyone is free to sign up to the gym and go to the showers. And it’s not about Google specifically. Any server is located out in what is essentially public. When you connect over the internet, you’re essentially leaving your house to go to that server. Let’s say you used radio waves to operate a robot on a public street. Would it be invasive for those nearby to look at the robot? According to you, yes it would be bec…
Your arguments aren't really rational.
You have an expectation in a public shower. You have an expectation of privacy when your bits are in public. Why not in other situations?
The online shaming culture at tumblr, twitter and reddit was what convinced me that you need to stay pseudonymous on the internet at all cost. There are so many people that participate in this and haven't realized yet that they are being an asshole to random strangers.
In the late 1980s, I got online. I refused to use my real name anywhere. I said, "Someone could run this Usenet group off to tape, restore it some time later, index it, and somehow make that available." I was derided as a paranoid fool. And yet here we are. One of my "handles" is still visible in a help file from 1993.
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I often think this about Ring / permanent surveillance that exists now. Nobody can even be free in front of their own house without the threat of something ludicrous happening to you and then it being on public record until the end of the internet. It's absolutely wild to me.
Those ring cameras are actually crazy. The fact that they are so normalized in the BA is kind of disturbing This lady just moved in next to me. Drives a leased luxury car. Doesn't interact with anyone, she just put up a ring camera (on an apartment door) and doesn't go outside I absolutely can't stand people who put up all of this cringey privacy invading IOT shit, in a relatively nice area on top of that
People like to make this "oh but you're in public so why can't I film you" argument and it's so strange to me that this is something people actively want - to not be allowed privacy from other peoples pictures and recordings.
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I know I'm not saying anything new here, but I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is, especially from a group who considers themselves highly intelligent (compared to those "other" people). Videos like you describe are there every time I visit, along with fight videos and comments making up a back story as to what the victim did to deserve it, etc. Sometimes I wonder why things like vigilanteis…
It shouldn't surprise you that online communities are a reflection of human nature. The behaviors we see are the effects of groupthink taken to its extreme. Even in "civilized" forums such as this one, you'll notice people conforming with the group mentality, and deleting their posts if they get downvoted. When there is little to no moderation, and viciousness is acceptable within the group, this behavior will spiral…
Same for pile-ons. I'm not so naive to think that they never happen offline, but there's a higher cost to doing them than there is when all you have to do is write 140 characters to dunk on someone you won't even remember in two weeks.
Social media truly is the opioid of today's society. While browsing /r/all, I ran across a post from a very popular sub which had an airport worker stripping in the airport, flailing on the floor, etc. No one knows why, could have been drugs, could have been a mental defect. Yet many of the thousands of responses were laughing because they could see the man's flaccid penis. While we don't know what caused the man to…
I know I'm not saying anything new here, but I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is, especially from a group who considers themselves highly intelligent (compared to those "other" people). Videos like you describe are there every time I visit, along with fight videos and comments making up a back story as to what the victim did to deserve it, etc. Sometimes I wonder why things like vigilanteis…
For vigilanteism it seems simple to me: it was the original counterforce against anti-social sociopathic and predatory behavior such as murder - predating law enforcement, predating law, predating humanity. Even animals arguably engage in "vigilanteism" when retaliating against another pack's attack, or when pack leaders are overly cruel and tyranical. The deterence of "don't hurt us - or we'll hurt you".
We rightfully look down on vigilanteism now as it tends to short circuit things like the due process of an assumed-to-be effective, functional, and ethical legal system... but those are some pretty big assumptions, and I have several bridges to sell you if you think they're always true, or if you think everyone agrees on which legal systems rise to that level. Vigilanteism is merely the default form of "justice" that we sometimes rise above, given the right circumstances.
Circumstances which are often lacking online.