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They didn’t ask to go viral

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Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by rolph »

yosito wrote: post #58
rolph wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> There is no reasonable expectation of privacy when in public this is the most incorrect statement i have seen today. you should experience what happens if you walk up to a woman with a purse and start rummaging through it. clothes would be unreasonable as well, you should look under peoples garments and tell them about how unreasonable they are being .

Rummaging though someone's personal belongings is not the same as observing and reporting what they do in public. I am not making that argument, and you are being disingenuous to imply that I am.

well i am making that argument and im not implying any thing.

>> observing and reporting what they do in public.<< try this for real, you wont like what the observed response is.

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by ipaddr »

nullindividual wrote: post #54
dustincoates wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I'm not saying anything new here, but I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is, especially from a group who considers themselves highly intelligent (compared to those "other" people). Videos like you describe are there every time I visit, along with fight videos and comments making up a back story as to what the victim did to deserve it, etc. Sometimes I wonder why things like vigilanteis…

> I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is Eventually you won't be shocked. It's anonymous and you can say (almost) anything you like. Moderation of large subs is a joke, even before the strike. Just like the reddit "Trust and Safety" team, the mods of this particular subreddit, even though the post violated a sub rule along with the site rule, stayed up, unlocked. > but not anymore if it become…

Reddit has always been hostile/tribal, I would say it's slightly less so than in the past.

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

teamspirit wrote: post #21
laputan_machine wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often think this about Ring / permanent surveillance that exists now. Nobody can even be free in front of their own house without the threat of something ludicrous happening to you and then it being on public record until the end of the internet. It's absolutely wild to me.

That's the exact reason I just ordered a locally recording doorbell and am finally replaced the last cloud based "smart" device in my home. I found myself actually changing my behavior and not saying certain things to my wife in front of it. The thought that every time I passed my own front door a stranger, that I placed there, was recording me was nauseating.

I had a ring for about one week before I ripped it out and sent it back.

I can’t understand how almost no one realized we went far worse than UK or Singapore’s surveillance state and did it on our own dollar voluntarily.

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

plagiarist wrote: post #66
nullindividual wrote: post #4

Social media truly is the opioid of today's society. While browsing /r/all, I ran across a post from a very popular sub which had an airport worker stripping in the airport, flailing on the floor, etc. No one knows why, could have been drugs, could have been a mental defect. Yet many of the thousands of responses were laughing because they could see the man's flaccid penis. While we don't know what caused the man to…

Reddit is a cesspool. There are people actively using it for radicalization. It takes them far too long to shut down subreddits dedicated to far-right eugenicist delusions, if they do so at all.

My man… if you think the problem with Reddit is “far right” that is just how far your perspective is skewed.

There are a lot of accusations to make at Reddit; that is by far not even close to reality.

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by crazygringo »

But what about the legality?

You don't need people to sign a release form if you're a photojournalist or anything considered to be an editorial source.

But as professional filmmakers know, you absolutely do need a release form if you're producing anything commercial (for sale). Or if you're pushing the boundaries of this like they do when filming Law & Order, to at least put up prominent signs so Manhattan pedestrians know they might wind up on the show if they walk down a particular patch of sidewalk that day.

Isn't there a strong argument to be made that posting on social media without consent is therefore illegal? Because while you're not explicitly selling the video, you and/or the site is monetizing it via ads, which these days is the same thing.

Has this been tested in court?

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

iambateman wrote: post #20
iJohnDoe wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% this. Learned in the 90s early internet about the emotional harm that I’ve seen happen to people. Slightly different topic. I think state and federal laws need to be passed regarding medical, police, evidence, and other types of private videos and photos from being leaked online. Too much of it magically leaks out and it’s just the people that are trusted with the data that are posting it online.

For sure. There was a show called “LivePD” that took live video as someone was arrested by the police. I watched for years. Now it feels so gross…if someone is having the potentially-worst moment of their life, society should offer them the decency of not putting it on live TV.

Didn’t those people all sign releases?

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by renewiltord »

dustincoates wrote: post #28
nullindividual wrote: post #4

Social media truly is the opioid of today's society. While browsing /r/all, I ran across a post from a very popular sub which had an airport worker stripping in the airport, flailing on the floor, etc. No one knows why, could have been drugs, could have been a mental defect. Yet many of the thousands of responses were laughing because they could see the man's flaccid penis. While we don't know what caused the man to…

I know I'm not saying anything new here, but I'm always shocked by just how vicious the Reddit community is, especially from a group who considers themselves highly intelligent (compared to those "other" people). Videos like you describe are there every time I visit, along with fight videos and comments making up a back story as to what the victim did to deserve it, etc. Sometimes I wonder why things like vigilanteis…

The backstory ones are amazing.

It's like an LLM were set free.

"He probably stalked her from the age of 12 and waited till she was 19 before he bought her an ice cream of the flavour her mum liked before she died. All so that she'd invite him to this party where he could fight this other guy.

Imagine you think this guy is a friend and he only became your friend because he hated someone else.

As someone with trauma because of my parents dying when I was young, finding out that the one guy who was your friend is not would be devastating."

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by ipnon »

madeofpalk wrote: post #29
blueflow wrote: post #8

The online shaming culture at tumblr, twitter and reddit was what convinced me that you need to stay pseudonymous on the internet at all cost. There are so many people that participate in this and haven't realized yet that they are being an asshole to random strangers.

Don’t try and pretend HN takes the moral high ground. This is something - regardless of how big of a problem you think it is - that permeates. Once a month there will be a link to some GitHub or issue where everyone will pile on about some stupid issue.

Ad hominem is at least nominally against the rules here. Most egregious instances will get flagged and deleted. It’s not perfect but there is some effective immune response moving things back in the right direction.

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by throwingtoofar »

I stay away from the kind of content the article refers to however I think there are cases where it's important to highlight the behaviour of those who would prefer you didn't such as recording the bad behaviour of public workers.

Popular 1st Amendment auditor Long Island Audit has highlighted much of this and shown how many police officers lack knowledge of laws they are supposed to be upholding.

Here's a video that went viral[0] and a recent follow up[1] where things went kind of differently i'm assuming because of the exposure in the first.

[0] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AsxNf54ep1Q

[1] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CZtgVrYC4f0

Re: They didn’t ask to go viral

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Post by ipaddr »

plagiarist wrote: post #66
nullindividual wrote: post #4

Social media truly is the opioid of today's society. While browsing /r/all, I ran across a post from a very popular sub which had an airport worker stripping in the airport, flailing on the floor, etc. No one knows why, could have been drugs, could have been a mental defect. Yet many of the thousands of responses were laughing because they could see the man's flaccid penis. While we don't know what caused the man to…

Reddit is a cesspool. There are people actively using it for radicalization. It takes them far too long to shut down subreddits dedicated to far-right eugenicist delusions, if they do so at all.

I agree reddit is a cesspool. I disagree that rightwing groups are the cause. Leftwing groups, Rightwing, groups in the middle, groups around programming languages are all filled with toxic people showing toxic behaviour that the same people would complain about on other mediums.
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