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Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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post #26

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Up the proverbial river of excrement without a paddle, if you'll excuse my French

The lifespan of everyone reading this has decreased by several decades.

That's not true at all and not what anthropocene climate change implies.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#32
post #19

I came across this hypothesis a few years ago and thought it was an interesting possibility, but that there wasn't any data that really supported it. In light of the data of the last few months I honestly can't think of a hypothesis that better explains what is going on with ocean temperature, especially in regions that should be in winter right now. https://theethicalskeptic.com/2020/02/16/the-climate-change-... It'…

Gave it about 5 minutes, left me with a strong crackpot energy, even with the disclaimer a little bit in.

The length seems to affect the authors ability to make a cohesive argument, even when I set my bias against length aside.

I closed the tab after I saw the claim its the only way to explain increased CO2 PPM during [March / April 2020].

Figure 1A is "substantial jump in carbon ppm each year from 15 Feb through 1 Apr when the sun increases its heat contribution"

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#33
post #22

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They are metaphorically in disbelief, but in actuality they are not in disbelief? Yeah I guess I understand the climate deniers too. EDIT: Be cause I wrote the above in anger Scientists have been sounding the alarm for as long as I have lived. They have consistently used the most optimistic scenarios and we have constantly done worse than that. Climate Deniers want to deny because the reality is an inconvenience to t…

"I can’t believe you posted that comment!" That's metaphorical. Of course I believe you posted that comment, it's right in front of my eyes.

You're making distinctions without differences. This kind of metaphorical speaking is very common in English and is well-understood by people not looking for pedantic argumentation. I will grant that it may be a bit subtle to non-native English speakers, but it is not being used to deceive the reader either in fact or in severity.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Lots of crazy things in the weather this year. The obvious thing is to blame climate change. But these are pretty sudden and extremely unusual. I don’t think this is at all what is predicted. I wonder how much the Hunga Tonga eruption of last year affected the weather this year. I think it injected some crazy amount of water into the atmosphere.

Wasn’t that about 146 million tons of water? It’s a lot in one go, but the atmosphere has about 2.5% water vapour, which is a total of ~ 1.3e17 kg.

The water was underground, in the volcano for aeons, and only emerged with this eruption.

As we all know, quantumly entangled particles behave differently. And these, are temporally linked with h2o from 1.8M years ago!

Thus, charged with the fortitude of their warmer, more energetically excited brethren, their effect is greater, this is scientific fact, and cannot be disputed, so don't try!

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#35
post #9

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Climate change increases the likelyhood of such extreme events. That's part of the predictions.

In fairness, climate change does not increase volcanism...

I was referring to the weather extremes. The point is that you don’t need the Hunga Tonga eruption to explain those. Moreover, at this point it's pure conjecture that the eruption would constitute a major factor here.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#36
post #19

I came across this hypothesis a few years ago and thought it was an interesting possibility, but that there wasn't any data that really supported it. In light of the data of the last few months I honestly can't think of a hypothesis that better explains what is going on with ocean temperature, especially in regions that should be in winter right now. https://theethicalskeptic.com/2020/02/16/the-climate-change-... It'…

Here's a summary by chatGPT:

The article on The Ethical Skeptic presents an alternative theory on climate change, called the "Exothermic (Cyclic) Core Theory of Climate Change". According to this theory, recent climate change may stem from structural and exothermic phase changes in the Earth's nickel-iron core, rather than primarily from human activity. The author suggests that changes in the core's structure release latent kinetic energy (heat), which flows to the Earth's asthenosphere and deep ocean depths, becoming the genesis of most observed climate change and its long-associated geomagnetic dipole phenomena.

The theory proposes that the Earth's core undergoes extreme exothermic change, releasing heat that eventually reaches the Earth's asthenosphere. This heat accelerates the release of volatile organic compounds and methane into the atmosphere. Additionally, deep ocean currents transport this heat to the ocean surface, leading to rapid melting of polar ice caps.

The author criticizes current climate models, arguing that they fail to accurately predict temperature and CO2 increases. He suggests that his theory offers a more comprehensive explanation of global observations.

It's important to note that the author does not deny anthropogenic climate change but proposes an additional theory that could help explain observed climate changes

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#37
post #26

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Up the proverbial river of excrement without a paddle, if you'll excuse my French

The lifespan of everyone reading this has decreased by several decades.

What is going to cause everyone reading this to die decades earlier?

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

#38
post #30

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Explain how this is clickbait.

Sure: - "Winter" in the headline makes it sound more extreme. It’s information-free, because winter and summer temperatures close to the equator are very similar. - Numbers are given in absolutes when convenient to paint a picture and are without meaning without a proper reference. - References are sketchy: "in winter as hot as Europe in summer". "This would be weird in New South Wales". Ok then. - Color scheme of ma…

> winter and summer temperatures close to the equator are very similar.

Do you actually know where the equator is on that map?

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Just an interesting first person anecdote: In the south of Brazil (close to Argentina) we normally have well defined seasons, but almost like clockwork we always had a famous "mini-summer of May", an unusually warm week in an otherwise cold mid-autumn. Well in the last decade the new concepts of "mini-summer of June" and now "mini-summer of July" started entering the popular parlance, as this abnormally warm weeks du…

Interesting. In Rome we have a similar week in October, it's called "the roman October"
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