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Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by vogon_laureate »

beardedmoose wrote: post #78
ryanklee wrote: post #38

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I'm hesitant to make any assumptions about your decision to not medicate, but if it has anything to do with addictive properties, you should look into guanfacine. I have very severe ADHD and was unable to use the common medications for the reason listed. This last year I stumbled upon guanfacine, which is usually a blood pressure reduction med, but is prescribed off-label as an ADHD med. It has no noticeable effects…

I was previously on Guanfacine in combination with Adderall for my blood pressure so I don't have experience taking it solely. I did learn I cannot take stimulants at all, it takes my anxiety to 1000 and makes me a complete a-hole around my house which helps nobody. Can you elaborate which ADHD symptoms it has helped the most? I'm currently not taking any meds but I can't focus or concentrate to save my life which ma…

How effective was it on your blood pressure? I'm currently on Modafinil and it's been a life-changer but it doesn't help with some of the killer symptoms of ADHD that still plague me (like task avoidance, distractibility, task completion, time management, planning, consistency, etc.). But I was recently diagnosed with hypertension so need to deal with that. I'm worried the GP will say that I need to discontinue the Modafinil as it's not recommended for people with cardiovascular issues. But maybe with guanfacine it might balance out?

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by FeepingCreature »

fragmede wrote: post #63
overnight5349 wrote: post #61

The entire content of this website is six bullet points and three or four sentences. You really need to do a lot better than that. It looks like the cheapest, shadiest, slapped together "I hooked ChatGPT into google calendar" project, same as all the other "AI" projects coming out these days. You've offered no compelling reason to use this, nor explained what it does or how it can help me except in the vaguest of ter…

> It seems to be an effort to game you into being a more productive worker, and not actually helping you live with ADHD. Where ADHD leads to problems being productive despite having the intelligence to do the job, and that jobs tend to, y'know, fire you if you're not productive, and you go homeless without money, which you get from having a job, isn't helping ADHD people be productive the same thing? As far as your t…

And some companies are able to make products that people actually want to use, and that don't have properties that put off their prospective customers.

When you want my money, and I don't want to give it to you, that's an "issue", but more for you than me.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by skjoldr »

throwaway60707 wrote: post #163
scns wrote: post #153

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> ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder. At first i wanted to disagree, then i realized why. Disorder means wrongly ordered or sickness. ADHD is classified as such, and if you want treatment, you need to get yourself diagnosed. I really dislike the pathologizing of every neurotype that deviates from the imaginary normal person. I'm pretty sure, if you look closely you'll find something "broken" in everybody. Other pe…

ADHD can also be totally debilitating and I - a person with strong ADHD - don't think this talk of "it's an advantage" is helping anyone. Yeah in very few cases there are some positives, but usually not. In my case, I was hyper-focused on computers since I was a child, and that got me my career/business and that probably saved my life -- because I was totally unable to do anything in school and wasn't able to finish…

ADHD really doesn't correlate with IQ, I think what you meant is that adults with ADHD who can get their life together enough to get diagnosed are more likely to also be intelligent, which is true, and those with ADHD and cognitive deficits on top are far more likely to be forgotten and to end up in a prison, which is also sadly true.

I have an IQ of 136, which is considered to be very gifted, but my performance and life success thus far are decidedly average. It's a debilitating condition if it's not detected in time and not managed.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by skjoldr »

catsarebetter wrote: post #168
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

This is the first post I've read about ADHD that makes me think that there are multi-dimensional qualities and that the general public treats ADHD as a binary yes/no. Very interesting and great self-awareness too.

ADHD is the same kind of spectrum that autism is, it's different for everyone.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by throwaway60707 »

skjoldr wrote: post #173
throwaway60707 wrote: post #163

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ADHD can also be totally debilitating and I - a person with strong ADHD - don't think this talk of "it's an advantage" is helping anyone. Yeah in very few cases there are some positives, but usually not. In my case, I was hyper-focused on computers since I was a child, and that got me my career/business and that probably saved my life -- because I was totally unable to do anything in school and wasn't able to finish…

ADHD really doesn't correlate with IQ, I think what you meant is that adults with ADHD who can get their life together enough to get diagnosed are more likely to also be intelligent, which is true, and those with ADHD and cognitive deficits on top are far more likely to be forgotten and to end up in a prison, which is also sadly true. I have an IQ of 136, which is considered to be very gifted, but my performance and…

Same here. I'm sure I'd be able to do much better if it was not for my ADHD. I don't even care about business - but I'm really sad about my childhood, and about the adult relationships I ruined before I knew what's up with me.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by skjoldr »

ilc wrote: post #57
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

In reading your replies.. you've got it straight, from another long time ADHDer. Tools are useful in as much as they help you control your attention. The only ones I've found truly useful are ER4SRs. (In ear monitors, -35DB to the environment. I listen to music while I work, at ~70DB. If you do the math about the only thing I can hear is a fire alarm... and that's about right. :) )

I'm now very sad about Etymotics not sealing in my ear canals properly lol Currently on the lookout for other IEMs with decent sound, I heard good things about Crinacle's 7Hz Dioko that have a flat-ish signature similar to Etymotics.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by skjoldr »

lacrimacida wrote: post #154
klausa wrote: post #46

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> At some point it will become a hardened habit and honestly much better than some AI crutch. One of the symptoms of ADHD is borderline impossibility of forming habits, in the way that neurotypical people think about them.

Not true at all, and obviously im on this thread because im not neurotypical. ADHD is about misfunctioning emotional regulation and nothing to do with inability to form habits, as a matter of fact coping strategies is basically habits that work with disfunction. With ADHD I can focus extremely well, hyperfocus actually but not on the things that I find boring.

ADHD is also about executive dysfunction, which means I often forget or find it "too hard" (due to insufficient dopamine) to do the behavior I want to make into a habit. But it's different to everyone, I have inattentive ADHD, you might have a hyperactive ADHD which means you struggle with emotional regulation and impulsivity far more than executive dysfunction and inattentiveness, so different tools work for you.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by kuhewa »

ughitsaaron wrote: post #95
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

> it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have This is exactly what I suspect of virtually any kind of app, software, platform, etc. I’m advertised as intended to help me with ADHD. ADHD is expresses itself in such a broad variety of ways. I just don’t trust that any kind of app is actually so tuned into my experience of ADHD that it could actually be helpful. I hesitate to say this: but, it’s…

Productivity apps miss the mark but I get good value out of Forest on Android, just that slight nudge reminding I just absentmindedly picked up my phone to doom scroll and it's only been 12 seconds since the last time I tried is valuable when the executive function is really bad

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by fernandotakai »

skjoldr wrote: post #176
ilc wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reading your replies.. you've got it straight, from another long time ADHDer. Tools are useful in as much as they help you control your attention. The only ones I've found truly useful are ER4SRs. (In ear monitors, -35DB to the environment. I listen to music while I work, at ~70DB. If you do the math about the only thing I can hear is a fire alarm... and that's about right. :) )

I'm now very sad about Etymotics not sealing in my ear canals properly lol Currently on the lookout for other IEMs with decent sound, I heard good things about Crinacle's 7Hz Dioko that have a flat-ish signature similar to Etymotics.

i have a 7hz dioko and i absolutely love it. i would give it a try, since it's not that expensive.
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