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A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team
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A possible reason might be some patents owned by Microsoft: https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/17/microsoft_ans_patent/ That's also a good reason for others to drop support until licensing of these patents is clarified.
> That's also a good reason for others to drop support until licensing of these patents is clarified. If that were true, then browsers should drop support for VP8, VP9 and indeed AV1 because the MPEG-LA is claiming ownership of patents covering those codecs.
The rollout of that stuff took some time precisely for this reason.
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#573For me, it's the tying of the new-tab page to your search engine choice. That's perhaps the most valuable real-estate in the browser; I just want it to be about:blank and not do any funny phoning-home stuff.
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#574What is the excuse of all people reading this thread in agreement and still using Chrome? As I mentioned elsewhere, this is preaching to the choir. A choir of Chrome users. Google wouldn't be so dominant if tech people like us would stop making lazy excuses to continue its hegemony. In Dante's Divina Commedia , there is a circle of hell for those too lazy to take a stance [1]. If it were written today, it would inclu…
the city i work for has 100k employees, admittedly not everybody office based, but still: they only allow chrome and edge (except on iphone) because it would be too much work to maintain features for other browsers
US official asked me to use Internet Explorer in 2021 when I called them that their obviously broken website didn't work with Chrome or Firefox. Browser divergence and incomplete or faulty support of standards is irritating.
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It could also be argued that right now Google's domination of the web allows them to throw their weight around and introduce bad "standards" just so everything can be moved to the web, which again, they basically own. For example the "standard" implementation of web push is straight up bad. I don't think websites should be able to throw popups asking users with enable notifications, because users are so used to accep…
I love how sites are now taking the mobile strategy of checking first and then showing a sugary popup explaining that they’re about to pop the native prompt for perms, and why. It brings me joy to click affirmative on those so I can permablock by clicking no on the native prompt.
I thought the "Click Yes to notifications to prove you're not a computer" was one of the more amusing traps.
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This a problem for me. I've been a long time Firefox user, but the UI/UX has stagnated (like all browsers) for so long. I'm enjoying using Arc at the moment because it's rethinking a lot of things that bug me about the traditional browser UI paradigm but I also know that it's a trendy startup that could either: explode, decide to change features radically at the drop of a hat (pivot), or simple do something distastef…
> but the UI/UX has stagnated (like all browsers) for so long. What some people call "stagnation", others call "stability".
Stability is great but if the UX doesn't fit how I'd like to interact with the internet it doesn't really matter what you call it. The general shape of the browser, how you interact with it and how you get it to do things for you has been stagnant in my mind. This is why I'm trying out other options.
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https://www.apple.com/app-store/
I see the confusion, that's not the web.
In all seriousness - which half of the new Google WEI divided web will you so confidently declare "That's not the web" for?
Because this is the half Apple broke off to sell as iOS apps. A domain that is entirely exclusive to apple, and requires all sorts of hoops to gain access to (including purchasing Apple specific hardware).
Further - they enforced that domain by strictly locking down down the capabilities of literally ANY browser a user might try to install on iOS. Because otherwise users might have chosen to use a progressive web app and Apple wouldn't get their fucking 30% store tax.
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This a problem for me. I've been a long time Firefox user, but the UI/UX has stagnated (like all browsers) for so long. I'm enjoying using Arc at the moment because it's rethinking a lot of things that bug me about the traditional browser UI paradigm but I also know that it's a trendy startup that could either: explode, decide to change features radically at the drop of a hat (pivot), or simple do something distastef…
Arc is neat but since it’s built on chromium you’re still beholden to their decisions.
It's a fair point. Although I want to see competition in this space, first and foremost I want the features, UI, UX, etc, to fit with my intended workflows.
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https://www.apple.com/app-store/
So that's a website, but if you look at the URL, it's on the apple.com domain name. So that doesn't really count as "the web". The "App Store" might look like a website to you but it's actually what we call a "native" app, which means that it's not a website at all but a computer program that runs on your iPhone if you have one.
Oh fuck, really?
Gosh, I'm so silly. I hardly even noticed that the web is also a distribution platform for perfectly acceptable applications. They come with their own code and logo and everything! They even... wait for it... run locally on your iPhone if you have one!
Except they don't do it so well on iPhones - because Apple refused to implement or support a bunch of features that might have threatened their revenue on their app store. Which is fine, but then... they also stopped ANY other developers on the planet for being able to do that work on their platform.
They sure are nice fellas, those Apple folks.
Did I mention their app store is also an internet site? Literally. It has to be. Apple did a shit job making the HTML view, but the whole fucking shebang of a platform is delivering content to users over... the internet. Through a website.
They just locked the UI their users see for that content down to something they call "an iOS app" which is really code for "We turned your general purpose computer into a less general purpose computer for you!"
Which... is exactly the same fucking thing Google is doing now. Making my general purpose computer less general.