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Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by btilly »

pseudalopex wrote: post #111
btilly wrote: post #58

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An example of rejecting outside demands is seeking out work environments where I can cooperatively seek out tasks, rather than having someone try to order me to do what they want me to do. If I encounter someone who wants to order me around, I'll ignore if possible. And if not possible, I'll change jobs before complying. Trying to do things because someone is pushing me to do them will result in my becoming resentful…

> An example of rejecting outside demands is seeking out work environments where I can cooperatively seek out tasks, rather than having someone try to order me to do what they want me to do. What was effective or not in your search?

Most of the time, my personal sense of the prospective future manager was pretty useful.

I also recommend not trying to work for Amazon.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by Tao3300 »

kojiromike wrote: post #5

While I empathize that companies have to choose a release pathway that limits cost, I will not be a customer of a product whose release pathway is just a Chrome plugin. From where I'm sitting, that's less cost limiting and more customer limiting.

Seriously. Anyone who is hostile to ad blockers is hostile to ADHD sufferers.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by btilly »

hirvi74 wrote: post #117
btilly wrote: post #84

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People are more productive when they work with their strengths, instead of trying to address their weaknesses. Read https://www.amazon.com/First-Break-All-Rules-Differently/dp/... for more on that. In the meantime highly productive people from Thomas Jefferson to Richard Feynman appear to have had ADHD. Do you really think that this app would have made a positive difference in their lives?

> Thomas Jefferson to Richard Feynman appear to have had ADHD Based on what behaviors other than being somewhat eclectic? I've seen people try to diagnose historical figures before, but I have never seen these two on any list that I can remember.

Thomas Jefferson is on a list quoted in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC181243/. You can read the book for more on that.

Richard Feynman I'm basing on my impressions from Surely You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman and What Do You Care What Others Think? In particular the first book explains his inability to function when he tried to comply with external demands, and describes the lengths that he went to to live a curiosity driven life where he functioned much better. That matches my experience of ADHD. The second book has a long description of the period in which he wrote https://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v2appf.htm. That description contains a lot that is instantly recognizable as what it feels like to have hyperfocus.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by gmadsen »

krono wrote: post #108
acchow wrote: post #77

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Learning to create motivation is the ultimate hack for insufficient executive function. People tend to think of motivation as some innate property of your person. But it's actually an emotional response to inputs.

ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder. The symptoms of this disorder are caused by physical differences in the brain, right there in the prefrontal cortex where those responses to inputs are generated. It sometimes happens that I just physically can't bring myself to complete some simple but important chore. That's not because I'm mentally weak, but because my ADHD brain does not provide the right amount of dopamine…

ADHD is diagnosed by the occurance of defined symptoms. like most things in the DSM. Many things can manifest psychologically to give the collection of symptoms. Its not purely or even needs to be structural differences in the prefrontal cortex

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by Tao3300 »

tivert wrote: post #56
jasoncurry wrote: post #2

Hi, we just started building a few weeks ago but have about 700 beta users. We are building the most effective specialized AI for ADHD. We're in private beta but feel free to see our site that links to our Chrome extension and try it out if it sounds like something you need.

> Hi, we just started building a few weeks ago but have about 700 beta users. We are building the most effective specialized AI for ADHD. I'm sorry, but that statement just irks me. If you're only a few weeks into development, how can you honestly say what you're making will be the "most effective specialized AI for ADHD"? It's an unrealized aspiration stated as an inevitability. I don't think stating that you're "tr…

It smells like how crypto bros used to refer to "building web 3.0"

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by vineyardmike »

mattstir wrote: post #73
fragmede wrote: post #63

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> It seems to be an effort to game you into being a more productive worker, and not actually helping you live with ADHD. Where ADHD leads to problems being productive despite having the intelligence to do the job, and that jobs tend to, y'know, fire you if you're not productive, and you go homeless without money, which you get from having a job, isn't helping ADHD people be productive the same thing? As far as your t…

I'm quite curious about this sentiment because I've seen it more than a few times here on Hackernews. I have ADHD and have been very successful in my work life so far. I'm on a prescription medication for when my focus is necessary but that seems to be either dismissed or heavily frowned upon here. Is there a reason why the answer to ADHD seems to be "use AI to do your work" rather than "use the proven medications to…

> Is there a reason why the answer to ADHD seems to be "use AI to do your work" rather than "use the proven medications to allow you to focus"?

The same people who are anti-medication are most likely anti-AI.

I have ADHD and I’ve studied it a bit, and have followed a lot of developments and changes in perceptions around it. I also don’t use meditation.

Generally, I’ve noticed a lot of society has a vague anti-daily-medication-for-mental-health view. If you need it every day people tend to be against it. Part of it is that people seem to think you should learn how to cope (you should), which some people think as minimizing the disorder (which is bad). I’ve seen people mention that they don’t like how medication changes your personality (which can be very strong) or generally just don’t like the feeling of being on it.

I’m not a doctor, but ADHD medication can increase your risk of suicide and other severe mental health issues, so there is good health reasons not to take it unless you “need” to. Everyone just seems to have a different definition of “need”.

Personally, for me and my decision not to take it, I felt it was important to learn to live how my body wanted me to. I never liked how i felt on the medication, and i wanted to be myself. Society is very focused on productivity, which can be hard for someone with ADHD to fit into. I wanted to learn how to fit myself into the world, so I could “succeed” and live a happy life (whatever that meant) without having any dependencies. I didn’t want a missed pill one morning or a drug shortage to impart my ability to live my life. That might mean that I don’t have the career I wish I could have, and I won’t live by others’ definition of success, and maybe I have to make conscious changes to my routine.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by Tao3300 »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #40

As a person with ADHD I hate these fancy high tech super slick promo products / sites. They all appear to made by people who are do not have ADHD (might be wrong) but they figure they know what such people need. And that is yet another calendar / task list with some spices. they can use to go after grants / stipends etc. Aside from a privacy nightmare. Yeah I am giving a presentation to the board about this new confi…

> think the best way to help is to fund basic research

And to lobby your politicians to take controls and schedules off the stimulant medications used to treat ADHD. Stop voting for candidates without sensible drug policies.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by btilly »

gmadsen wrote: post #124
krono wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder. The symptoms of this disorder are caused by physical differences in the brain, right there in the prefrontal cortex where those responses to inputs are generated. It sometimes happens that I just physically can't bring myself to complete some simple but important chore. That's not because I'm mentally weak, but because my ADHD brain does not provide the right amount of dopamine…

ADHD is diagnosed by the occurance of defined symptoms. like most things in the DSM. Many things can manifest psychologically to give the collection of symptoms. Its not purely or even needs to be structural differences in the prefrontal cortex

I prefer the procedure from 20 years ago. Where ADHD was defined by having the systems, and then testing every other thing that it could be.

It took my son 2 months to be officially diagnosed. A real pain? Sure. But a heck of a lot better than the situation today where kids with chronic sleep deprivation are given an ADHD diagnosis, then sent home with a medication that masks the sleep deprivation while giving them insomnia.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by jkhdigital »

fragmede wrote: post #63
overnight5349 wrote: post #61

The entire content of this website is six bullet points and three or four sentences. You really need to do a lot better than that. It looks like the cheapest, shadiest, slapped together "I hooked ChatGPT into google calendar" project, same as all the other "AI" projects coming out these days. You've offered no compelling reason to use this, nor explained what it does or how it can help me except in the vaguest of ter…

> It seems to be an effort to game you into being a more productive worker, and not actually helping you live with ADHD. Where ADHD leads to problems being productive despite having the intelligence to do the job, and that jobs tend to, y'know, fire you if you're not productive, and you go homeless without money, which you get from having a job, isn't helping ADHD people be productive the same thing? As far as your t…

Yeah I tend to agree, my ADHD is an existential problem only because I have a family to support and it tends to disrupt the flow of income. You know, by getting me to change careers like four times before age 40…

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by overnight5349 »

dwb wrote: post #20

That looks great but there is exactly zero chance I would run this on a computer I didn't own, in my apartment. Call me paranoid, but that's just how I feel right now.

Yeah, no way I'd ever trust something like this if it wasn't on hardware I control.

You can't 100% trust some company to secure something this personal, but you know that you won't one day sell your personal diary to some ad firm.

Plus, privacy isn't even the biggest concern. What do you do when the company hosting it goes bust? Or simply decides to not support it anymore, or randomly increases the price? The server in my basement has way less uptime than AWS, but I control what services it runs, forever.

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