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Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by lyapunova »

fragmede wrote: post #63
overnight5349 wrote: post #61

The entire content of this website is six bullet points and three or four sentences. You really need to do a lot better than that. It looks like the cheapest, shadiest, slapped together "I hooked ChatGPT into google calendar" project, same as all the other "AI" projects coming out these days. You've offered no compelling reason to use this, nor explained what it does or how it can help me except in the vaguest of ter…

> It seems to be an effort to game you into being a more productive worker, and not actually helping you live with ADHD. Where ADHD leads to problems being productive despite having the intelligence to do the job, and that jobs tend to, y'know, fire you if you're not productive, and you go homeless without money, which you get from having a job, isn't helping ADHD people be productive the same thing? As far as your t…

You only have to look as far as big social media to see proof of the damage that corporate motives can cause on the mental health of average internetizens.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by beardedmoose »

btilly wrote: post #49
claviola wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I have positive motivations to do X, distractions are easy to set aside. If motivations are negative, I will be unable to resist creating distractions. And a straightjacket that prevents that leads to insanity. How do you deal with chores?

First, a direct positive emotion - I'm aware of how much my doing routine chores helps my wife and family. And it is a trade, I'd much rather do the chores than the routine paperwork that my wife does instead! Second, I use doing routine chores as meditation and thinking time. It does lead to doing the chore less efficiently - I might break off loading the dishwasher to pace, think, and jot down a note. But it is als…

These are really good tips which have an added benefit mentally with the positivity you are bringing to your own headspace.

I think meditation is overlooked in favor of medications as a valid aid in folks with executive function disorders.

I personally just listen to music with noise cancelling headphones while doing chores. It also helped that I took the time to explain to my family that I am not trying to ignore them but sometimes I need to unwind after a mentally taxing day at work with some distraction free cleaning.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by anoojb »

acchow wrote: post #77
simplemts wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You nailed it on the end for me as an Adult with ADHD diagnosed in my 30s. Motivation has been my biggest A-Ha with ADHD and trying my absolute best to align what I do with what I want to do otherwise I am setting myself up for failure and others for disappointment with me.

Learning to create motivation is the ultimate hack for insufficient executive function. People tend to think of motivation as some innate property of your person. But it's actually an emotional response to inputs.

Seems like you're describing motivation as a psychological skill that can be cultivated beyond some innate baseline. How does this work?

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by btilly »

fragmede wrote: post #63
overnight5349 wrote: post #61

The entire content of this website is six bullet points and three or four sentences. You really need to do a lot better than that. It looks like the cheapest, shadiest, slapped together "I hooked ChatGPT into google calendar" project, same as all the other "AI" projects coming out these days. You've offered no compelling reason to use this, nor explained what it does or how it can help me except in the vaguest of ter…

> It seems to be an effort to game you into being a more productive worker, and not actually helping you live with ADHD. Where ADHD leads to problems being productive despite having the intelligence to do the job, and that jobs tend to, y'know, fire you if you're not productive, and you go homeless without money, which you get from having a job, isn't helping ADHD people be productive the same thing? As far as your t…

People are more productive when they work with their strengths, instead of trying to address their weaknesses. Read https://www.amazon.com/First-Break-All-Rules-Differently/dp/... for more on that.

In the meantime highly productive people from Thomas Jefferson to Richard Feynman appear to have had ADHD. Do you really think that this app would have made a positive difference in their lives?

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by cstoner »

claviola wrote: post #42
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

> If I have positive motivations to do X, distractions are easy to set aside. If motivations are negative, I will be unable to resist creating distractions. And a straightjacket that prevents that leads to insanity. How do you deal with chores?

Not OP, but I give myself a little reward. Specifically, I "X" out the task on my daily task list. I take this so far as to add items I just completed to my list just so that I can mark them off.

It's stupid, but it works. At least for me. I think it comes down to 2 different types of positive reinforcement:

1. It feels good to mark a task done. 2. It feels good to look at a list of all of the things I did that day, even if they were the size of taking out the trash.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by robbiet480 »

Recently found success in a similar way to what is offered here using Rewind.ai, specifically its Ask Rewind and instant meeting transcription features. For those in the comments here wishing for a on device solution, Rewind is fully on device and your data never leaves it except for Ask Rewind.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by sudosysgen »

ilc wrote: post #57
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

In reading your replies.. you've got it straight, from another long time ADHDer. Tools are useful in as much as they help you control your attention. The only ones I've found truly useful are ER4SRs. (In ear monitors, -35DB to the environment. I listen to music while I work, at ~70DB. If you do the math about the only thing I can hear is a fire alarm... and that's about right. :) )

If you ever wanna go wireless, I find my WF-1000XM4s to be slightly more effective, and it's easier to turn off the isolation.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by wnc3141 »

btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

I'd be curious to hear about lessons learned from your experience, if you ever were to write a blog type post of your experiences.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by btilly »

pmarreck wrote: post #68
btilly wrote: post #13

I have moderately severe ADHD, and have good reasons to not use medication. My first response to this is that it solves problems that I don't have, and ignores the ones I do have. Organizing my day on paper is trivial. I'm also married to someone with a good partnership, and we offload different types of tasks to each other. She might enjoy having software assistants to be more productive, but I don't need that. I ha…

> but I don't need that. I have her. Yeah, about that. I fell into the same trap. Now I have someone who thinks her relative superpower makes her more mature and me more infantile even though she grew up dyslexic and still cannot distinguish to/too/two (and even though my income, while more highly variable than hers, is also far, far greater). Apparently it's fairly common for this to very negatively affect relations…

I wish there was a simple recipe. But the principle is to have each focus on the other person's good qualities.

How do actually do it will vary widely from couple to couple. The book The 5 Love Languages may help. It was one of many that helped me.

Re: Cognitive AI for ADHD

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Post by d4mi3n »

btilly wrote: post #44
mrcncpt wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard this take before but it makes a lot of sense. Do you mind clarifying the kind of emotional tools you refer to?

Mostly a lot of mind-body stuff to develop self-awareness, and adjusting my life, routines, and priorities to fit the needs that I find are not being met. I can ramble on for ages about it. But it is also a highly personal journey - what works for me won't for the next person and vice versa. However KNOWING that it is important is huge.

I found your original comment very informative. Did you pick this up through your own experiences? Would love to hear if you’ve read anything in particular that helped you form a routine that worked for you.
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