Kenyan moderators decry toll of training of AI

If the only change is salaries then no. My only objection to offshoring is when the conditions the workers are expected to endure are clearly far below what we'd consider minimally reasonable in developed countries - my basic rule is that "would people still hypothetically buy your product if they had walk through your factory first and observe those conditions first hand?". And no I don't think it's really enough to say "well at least it's better than subsistence farming" - in that case the conditions aren't (by and large) being imposed on them by others. It's a good thing corporations from developed economies are able to offer new employment opportunities in poorer countries, but for the sake of our own humanity, we still need to treat employees with the same basic decency as we would if they were in our own country.

Oh come on:

> The 27-year-old said he would would view up to 700 text passages a day, many depicting graphic sexual violence. He recalls he started avoiding people after having read texts about rapists and found himself projecting paranoid narratives on to people around him. Then last year, his wife told him he was a changed man, and left. She was pregnant at the time. “I lost my family,” he said.

I deal with forensics and have incidental contact with similar; it rubs off on you. Even my own post history reflects a similar personality change over time; I've been accused of being an unmedicated schizophrenic (by someone committing disability fraud of all things). You stop sleeping, knowing what other people are capable of doing, concealing, and actively thinking about (especially when it's people you otherwise think you "know"). You come home progressively-broken from the shit you witness. Add to that a pregnant wife (the pinnacle of logic, reason and stability) and divorce is inevitable. It doesn't need a "complicated" relationship; when you look online, therapists will try to skim whatever they can off of you on the way out but /r/divorce is touted as the only solution to all marital problems-- especially "depressed spouse."

The man's job compelled him to read the equivalent of "The 120 Days of Sodom" every day. I couldn't even stomach it a single time as an edgelord teenager.

> Why not refuse the work or raise the complaint at the time?

Where's your empathy? The company set up shop in Africa for the purpose of exploiting everybody willing to walk through its doors. They don't need to put up with revolutionaries; they'll throw your ass out onto the street because there's a line of people who'll take your spot without complaint. Not an ideal situation to be in when you have a child on the way.

I brainfarted and typed that instead of intertia and can't edit it now that the timer has passed.

Kenya is definetly on a solid path developmentally.

Though I'd be curious if someone who did a BA or BSc in a non-STEM major from a non-target university could get a $300/mon starting salary in Kenya.

Those tend to be the kinds of people who end up working as labelers in PH and IN, and I'd assume it's similar in Kenya.

And yea, inflation seems to be hellish outside the US+Canada.

Companies like SamaSource or Infosys can take advantage of that arbitrage by paying below a living wage because there are enough "desperate" or un/underemployed people who have higher education but aren't getting jobs that are paying a realistic/living wage.

I've seen this issue play out all over the developing world (India, Philippines, Vietnam, China, Thailand, Brazil, etc).

Millions of people in those countries are now living lives their grandparents could only dream of, education is much more democratized, and economies at a macro level are better than they were a generation ago - yet white collar/college educated salaries are still stuck at the 2000s or 2010s level because income rate conversions dropped or commodities have inflated. People are earning the same amount of money in Rupees, Yuan, Reales, Dong, etc as they would have 10-15 years ago for the same white collar job, but all of society has become much more expensive.