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Who cares about upvotes/downvotes.. and I agree, Tesla is just meme hype, and for that reason I will never buy “smart” car that spies on me and my family, while these videos are shared as a joke among Tesla employees.
Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
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Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to add agreement to this, but to be more precise: people should own the things they buy and artificial (software ) means of locking people out of features shouldn't be allowed.
If you opt out of the heated seat package when you purchase the car, that doesn't mean the manufacturer can't add that hardware in a disabled state. That also doesn't mean you own the heating feature after you opted out That's like asking Intel to fix a processor you overclocked
Nah, that's like asking Intel to enable two more cores on a two core processor made from a four core binned chip that they also sell four core processors based on. The only difference is software.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm of the opinion that these two things aren't comparable. True, IBM and others have locked extra capability through software... but they were only ever selling/renting to the corporate world, which presumably had enough in-house legal expertise to not be completely dicked over. To take that business practice, and then try to foist it on consumers who don't have $500/hour lawyers on retainer looking out for them is…
What are you talking about... Tesla is one of only a handful of OEMs that can even issue OTA updates. Their cars from 2013 can still get modern features OTA. Please explain how you classify that as a train wreck compared to software cobbled together from 100 vendors (none of whom specialize in software)
Have you perhaps considered that OTAs aren't a desirable feature in a safety critical system?
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to add agreement to this, but to be more precise: people should own the things they buy and artificial (software ) means of locking people out of features shouldn't be allowed.
If you opt out of the heated seat package when you purchase the car, that doesn't mean the manufacturer can't add that hardware in a disabled state. That also doesn't mean you own the heating feature after you opted out That's like asking Intel to fix a processor you overclocked
Here's an analogy: the year is 1950. I bought a car and a radio is built in. But I didn't pay the extra radio fee, so a wire is intentionally left out and the radio does not work. But the car is mine--I could choose to scrap it, radio hardware and all; I owe the company nothing, and I am the owner of a car with a nearly-functional radio. Then how could somebody object to my going in and fixing the radio, if it is my property to begin with?
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#145Wait a minute... heated seats are software locked on Teslas?
WTF guys?
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#146Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
I enthusiastically endorse this sentiment until I remember I'm a software engineer whose career depends pretty fundamentally on copyright law. As an industry, we sell things that make hardware more useful. That's what software is. But the software we sell* comes with legal restrictions on what the buyer* can and can't do with it. Which means that we're restricting what our customers can do with the hardware that they…
This is probably not productive, but I think the response would be; I bought the software from you so it's mine now.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anonymizing your location - until you put in route and your car asks for traffic information from teslas servers.
If the map can't talk to Tesla it'll use Google maps directly. I usually don't allow connections to Tesla on my rooted Model 3
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Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to add agreement to this, but to be more precise: people should own the things they buy and artificial (software ) means of locking people out of features shouldn't be allowed.
If you opt out of the heated seat package when you purchase the car, that doesn't mean the manufacturer can't add that hardware in a disabled state. That also doesn't mean you own the heating feature after you opted out That's like asking Intel to fix a processor you overclocked
Then they should pay me rental fees in compensation for electricity I have to purchase to haul their hardware around.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#149For now. They will plug the hole, just like Apple will stop any undocumented use of their GPU when it suits them. Why waste your time on these companies?
Possibly because it's their job, it's interesting, educational, maybe there's a monetary reward, maybe the reward was the journey all along.
The article mentions it can't be fixed by software update.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#150Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
I enthusiastically endorse this sentiment until I remember I'm a software engineer whose career depends pretty fundamentally on copyright law. As an industry, we sell things that make hardware more useful. That's what software is. But the software we sell* comes with legal restrictions on what the buyer* can and can't do with it. Which means that we're restricting what our customers can do with the hardware that they…
As a software engineer, I don't sell software, I'm paid to make it. I don't even own it afterwards. I hear some people are paid to develop open source software. I don't think my career depends "pretty fundamentally" con copyright law, as if the software I produce is otherwise worthless. Most people on the planet can't do the work I do, which means that somebody pays me for this work. Changing copyright law wouldn't change this fact -- at most it could affect my pay grade.