Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
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Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#2Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#3Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
But they don't own the license to use the software (Full Self Driving). I agree with you about the heated seats though.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#4Ah yes, "full" self driving
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#5Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
But they don't own the license to use the software (Full Self Driving). I agree with you about the heated seats though.
Hmm, is the code already present? Would enabling it be putting unexpected load on Tesla's servers? If it's just a local feature (like the heated seats) that's shipped turned off, I'd say enabling it doesn't feel especially different to me (trusting it to drive you around of course is different).
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#6Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
But they don't own the license to use the software (Full Self Driving). I agree with you about the heated seats though.
Here's my attitude: The consumer should have complete control over any hardware and software in any product they buy.
If a manufacturer wants to lock features behind a paywall, that is fine. However, they shouldn't be allowed to complain when consumers modify the thing they bought to get around that paywall. If Tesla really wants to make sure absolutely no one gets FSD or heated seats without paying, then they should make a point of only including the relevant hardware or software in the vehicle at the time of purchase.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#7I'm torn. On one hand, I absolutely think that a capability available in the vehicle/device when you purchased it should be available for you to use, and not behind a software lock (heated seats, etc). On the other hand, an "upgrade" or 100% new software delivered via OTA (self driving, etc) seems a little more like it should be a separate thing.
Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#8Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
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Re: Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features
#9Good. People who buy things should own the things they buy.
But they don't own the license to use the software (Full Self Driving). I agree with you about the heated seats though.
I'm ok with charging subscription fees for services with ongoing costs (things like cell connectivity for remote monitoring or something), and I'm ok with charging one time fees for unlocking features that are already there, since it allows for price discrimination, cheaper and more efficient manufacturing, and better prices to the customer overall (potentially at least). But the flip side of that is that...if you put it on the car that the customer bought, and they figure out how to unlock it.....well good for them and sucks for you. This kind of thing _should_ 100% be legal (if it isn't already, and my understanding is that it is). If you want to _100% guarantee_ that they don't get a feature without paying for it, then I guess pony up for the more complicated manufacturing process where it isn't installed on some models.
As for "they didn't pay for the license"....no....you gave it to them without asking them to sign a license agreement. They paid you money, and you gave them a product. How they use it is up to them.
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But they don't own the license to use the software (Full Self Driving). I agree with you about the heated seats though.
Here's my attitude: The consumer should have complete control over any hardware and software in any product they buy. If a manufacturer wants to lock features behind a paywall, that is fine. However, they shouldn't be allowed to complain when consumers modify the thing they bought to get around that paywall. If Tesla really wants to make sure absolutely no one gets FSD or heated seats without paying, then they should…
Yep, there would be issue at all if they sold the car and you install FSD with a download and a license key but if it comes with the car that's on you if/when the owner breaks the lock they own to access it.
If you sell me a house with a safe in it and want to charge me for the code that's fine, but if get a welder to just break the door open you have no right to tell me no.