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Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by Xelbair »

ksey3 wrote: post #7
dbish wrote: post #3

The problem is there are almost 0 alternatives beyond Firefox so if you don’t like their UX you’re stuck. All the “new” browsers are just chromium skins (edge, arc, etc.) Are there any real competitors building a new browser?

I have been using Brave for about a year. Dont miss Firefox or Chrome.

And which engine does Brave use? Take a wild guess.

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by stingraycharles »

lodovic wrote: post #27
amelius wrote: post #16

Webmasters should really fight back and show annoying popups when the user agent equals Chrome. These popups could nudge the user towards e g. Firefox. Perhaps EFF.org could provide a reference implementation of such popups.

Serious question: does the concept of a webmaster still exist in 2023? Sites are developed and built in dtap, deployed by gated processes, and in many instances nobody but the deployment agents have access to the actual production servers.

It has been years since I ever heard the term “webmaster” indeed, but I guess the point was “people who are in control of websites”, and not the concept as we knew it from the 90s (“that one dude who manages our corporate website”).

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

simula67 wrote: post #38

> to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser Or use Brave.

> The Brave Browser is built on the open-source Chromium Web core and our own client code is released under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 .

If you are on mac, you can use Orion, it’s written by the kagi team.

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Post by deafpolygon »

chungy wrote: post #11
dbish wrote: post #3

The problem is there are almost 0 alternatives beyond Firefox so if you don’t like their UX you’re stuck. All the “new” browsers are just chromium skins (edge, arc, etc.) Are there any real competitors building a new browser?

There is Ladybird.

> Are there any real competitors

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by uoaei »

yankput wrote: post #31

How is jpeg xl “hostile”, it’s just a new format. Does Chrome really need to support every new image format?

Can you expand on what you mean? As it stands your questions seem in incredibly bad faith, especially considering the market share Chrome has in the browser space.

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by nathan_phoenix »

Expected a huge list and there's only 3 items there, and one of them, JPEG XL, is kinda moot because it didn't seem viable until recently after Safari started supporting it...

Feel that the list could have had much more substance with the addition of webUSB, webSerial and such features which Chrome just strong armed.

In the current form the list and toot don't really drive the point home...

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by viscousviolin »

hutzlibu wrote: post #29
viscousviolin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's not a problem. For now. There are so many software projects that depend on chromium for their basic functionality, and so many users that indirectly rely on chromium. It's hard to switch to an alternative if the need arises. So when Google inevitably turns chromium into a problem, you don't have enough time to switch, no matter how badly you want to. It's time to preventatively switch to a project that's mo…

"Give Firefox's Gecko engine a chance, it has all the features you need." No, sadly it does not. And then I would be just dependant on mozillas leadership and sadly I do not trust them either. Ladybird and Kling I would trust, but it is not advanced enough yet. But they are making progress!

What makes you not trust firefox? I don't remember hearing about them acting in bad faith, but I'd love to hear if they did. What features do you need that only Chromium can give you?

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Post by TheRoque »

simula67 wrote: post #38

> to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser Or use Brave.

Why is brave shilled so much ? I don't think I recalled seeing as many ads from a browser other than brave. Using a browser that claims to be the new savior of the internet, "security and privacy focused", while being related to a crypto and heavily marketing their product... Meh.

Re: A list of recent hostile moves by Google's Chrome team

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Post by tommek4077 »

simula67 wrote: post #38

> to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser Or use Brave.

> Brave is a free and open-source web browser developed by Brave Software, Inc. based on the Chromium web browser.
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