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The Secretive World of Penile Enlargement

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> A year had passed since Mick’s ex­plant, and he’d entered a serious depression. He’d barely noticed when pandemic restrictions were lifted, because he’s continued to stay in his bed. Originally six and a half inches erect, he had lost an inch of length. Dude was already above the average cited in the article before he went under the knife. That's some tragic dysmorphia.

The saddest stat in the article is that the overwhelming majority of patients were already average or above. That alone should be considered a dereliction of the Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. This type of procedure should be banned for anyone already over 4 inches.

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post #43

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I don’t know what you think a life coach does. But one that solves their own problems and is happy is probably a good one. I think one thing we have leaned over time is it is not always possible to change how one thinks. For example. Some men like women, and do not find other men attractive at all. No amount of conditioning may change this. Or even something as simple as eating, an urge so strong that reasoning about…

You appear to be conflating things that are rigidly immutable vs. things that are reasonably intrinsic and healthy. It sucks that some people develop such neuroses, but it’s pretty strictly detrimental to their lives and mental health. These surgeries are largely unnecessary, solving imagined problems. If a life coach looks at this and sees a real problem and a positive solution… I would steer clear. I would say this…

I did not conflate. Outright told you that your assumptions that these things are mutable are wrong.

You sound just like an anti trans or old school gay hater.

Things you think are choices or are “developed” may just be things that are the way they are. Why do some people like blue and others purple.

You are outright putting your desires as normal and others as not.

You are a penis bigot at worse, or misinformed at best. Take some time to understand you are one person and not representative of all and what is normal for you may not be normal for others.

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post #45

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My parents actually did buy, not a Bose Wave radio, but one of the South African wind-up ones they advertised heavily just before Y2K. (My parents were insomniac Art Bell fans.) It came in pretty handy for sporadic weather-related stuff.

> one of the South African wind-up ones they advertised heavily just before Y2K. (My parents were insomniac Art Bell fans.) That'd be C.Crane. Looks like he and Bell were into each other https://ccrane.com/art-bell-an-interview-with-a-legendary-ta...

Gushing affair or not, it's an impressive radio.

Re: The Secretive World of Penile Enlargement

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post #43

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You appear to be conflating things that are rigidly immutable vs. things that are reasonably intrinsic and healthy. It sucks that some people develop such neuroses, but it’s pretty strictly detrimental to their lives and mental health. These surgeries are largely unnecessary, solving imagined problems. If a life coach looks at this and sees a real problem and a positive solution… I would steer clear. I would say this…

I did not conflate. Outright told you that your assumptions that these things are mutable are wrong. You sound just like an anti trans or old school gay hater. Things you think are choices or are “developed” may just be things that are the way they are. Why do some people like blue and others purple. You are outright putting your desires as normal and others as not. You are a penis bigot at worse, or misinformed at b…

I suppose you are entitled to an opinion, but I feel very strongly that body dysmorphia that causes men to obsess over their penises and seek surgeries to change it is a harmful neurosis not at all comparable to trans/gay folks intrinsic identities.

It might be hard to shake a neurosis like penis obsession but it isn’t healthy…

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post #57

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when making fun of a man's penis size for whatever reason becomes normalized, it isn't surprising body dysmorphia becomes more prevalent. double standards galore. mens issues just don't matter.

I dunno about you, but the only people who have ever made fun of my penis were other men, and every woman I've known who called herself a feminist cared about men's issues. I first learned about the inequities in child custody impacting men from one. This isn't a "double standard," it's what feminists have been saying for a long time, that these rigid gender roles hurt everyone (though women in particular do bear the…

You've really never heard a woman say men with big trucks are "compensating for something" or any other put-downs related to penis size for perceived macho or overtly masculine behavior?

Here, I'll give you a segment of a Netflix special where a woman makes fun of a past boyfriend with a micropenis, does that count? Some of the audience laughs but it doesn't kill TBF. Starts at the 2 minute mark.

1. https://youtu.be/QQXGEd-8Hws

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post #57

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I dunno about you, but the only people who have ever made fun of my penis were other men, and every woman I've known who called herself a feminist cared about men's issues. I first learned about the inequities in child custody impacting men from one. This isn't a "double standard," it's what feminists have been saying for a long time, that these rigid gender roles hurt everyone (though women in particular do bear the…

You've really never heard a woman say men with big trucks are "compensating for something" or any other put-downs related to penis size for perceived macho or overtly masculine behavior? Here, I'll give you a segment of a Netflix special where a woman makes fun of a past boyfriend with a micropenis, does that count? Some of the audience laughs but it doesn't kill TBF. Starts at the 2 minute mark. 1. https://youtu.be/…

Oh I've heard song lyrics and standup jokes and lines in movies and TV shows, sure. I was talking about my personal experience. (I did laugh at the Ali Wong joke, but I won't go to bat for it or anything, it is a joke about stereotypes and insecurity. And the follow up jokes didn't land for me because they got mean.)

I'm sure I've heard men and women make "compensating" jokes, I don't remember any particular instances and have no idea about the proportion.

Experiences will differ, but I think it's a mistake to attribute the policing of masculinity to women primarily. I'm sure there is far too much of that, but a lot of it (in my personal experience, most) comes from other men, and at any rate blaming women is unproductive. The culprit is suffocatingly rigid ideas about gender, and it's a problem for all of us.

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With men it may be hidden, but it affects "measuring up" as you say in exactly the way that matters to most straight men: having more (or even any!) sexual partners, especially as supposedly they're having less sex than ever[0]. It's one of the many factors in the toolbox fallacy: "If only I was 'big' enough, I'd be more confident with women". [0] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especial...

I don't think it really impacts how many sexual partners you will have. Maybe repeats? But even then, doubt it. Preferences are disparate.

Like mumblemumble said - it's not about the reality. It's the assumption of "I'll be enough when X". "Repeats" are more likely an outcome of overall performance beyond size (though depending on the partner's preference, it will assist).

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This is so sad. I think there is an underdiscussed crisis with some segments of men.

Men have a lot of problems that are under discussed and swept under the rug. Loneliness issues, confidence issues, perception issues, issues with men thinking their life doesn't matter to just name a few. The suicide rate among men is so high for a lot of reasons.

Suicide rate is around 4 times higher for men in Western societies, but suicide attempts by women are at least twice that of men. More lethal, messier suicide methods are more popular among men, and in my opinion, it's because women are socialised to be more considerate of those who will find their body.

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Most are scam , I think. Random stuff: - [big gun] :) , is exception, not rule. Exercises, luck, pillows? Stop working after 30s? Not much old movie performers? small is better than nothing no? I mean, some nice women are happy with their half centimeter! I guess some women have their own fun/thing. Cant compete with [dildo dragon] thing [dildo/dragon/glove] thing can be men's best friend. Helps to fill the void :). It is an art, though.

not native sorry!

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