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Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Not an answer, but if you think superconductor is weird, look up superfluid, now that's going to make your head spin.

Thanks for the interesting new thing. If they suffer no loss in kinetic energy and a wave can move forever, could we use a circular pool of superfluid as an an energy storage mechanism?

Well, the whole thing must be at liquid helium temperature, so probably not practical ...

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Personally, I think we are past the point of this being nothing. There have been multiple confirmations of at least something unexplained going on. Maybe all of them are wrong but honestly, that is more of an extraordinary claim than saying this is something interesting, just not a full on room temp superconductor.

I understand why a lot of people think this, but I don't think we can say that with confidence yet. Cold fusion "replicated successfully" multiple times in the 80s too.

There are now several authentic videos of bits of rock (lead apatite) appearing to do things around magnets that they have no business doing.

Maybe there's a lot of smoke and no fire, but there's videographic evidence of something weird going on.

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Summary of events so far: The claim: Room temp (~300K) superconductor exists and we got it! The replication attempts: The production method is so poorly documented only a fraction of the samples being made shows any interesting properties. And among those interesting ones, results varies. Very few, if any, attempt actually completely shows the entire spectrum of properties and behaviors of a true superconductor at ro…

I’d note they claimed to try the synthesis over 1000 times to arrive at their best sample. They admit to not being physicists and being more experimental chemists. If there is anything here, which at minimum seems they’ve found something interesting. The theoretic research published recently supporting their claims coupled with the discussion that the apparently superconducting material is less likely to form it’s probably (IMO, IANAP) a process that requires substantial refinement but holds a claimed experimental and theoretically demonstrated potential to be a room temperature normal pressure superconductor as claimed. There seems to be a lot of “their work is sloppy” and “their method isn’t refined” as a proof of a negative, but it’s just proof that science is done in many ways by many techniques and no one is sufficient, but everyone is necessary.

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Off-topic, but I admire the effort to translate the formula to Unicode characters in the title. It's not just a simple copy-paste from the article.

GPT-4 does it very well though. (Not saying OP used it, was just curious if that'd work.) Prompt: > Observation of zero resistance above 100∘ K in Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O > convert this to a title, with the correct usage of unicode Output: > Observation of Zero Resistance Above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

ChatGPT says:

    The chemical formula "Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O" can be written in Unicode as follows:

    Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

    Please note that not all characters may be perfectly aligned due to font 
    variations and rendering differences in different systems. However, this 
    representation should provide a close approximation to the chemical formula.
As plain text: Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

EDIT: Note that arxiv uses mathjax (JS) to take a compound formula as plain text and applies subscript, superscript, etc. styling to it. ("Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O")

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Worth noting that the sample used did not produce a Meissner effect, but was still superconductive at ~100K. > To further verify the superconducting properties, we conducted magnetic measurements on the sample, but unfortunately, no obvious Meissner signal was observed, indicating that the superconducting volume fraction of the sample may be very small. The preparation of high-purity samples are still a challenging t…

This is one of my key takeaways as well. It's a shame they didn't include their magnetization measurements, even if it didn't confirm superconductivity. The first conclusive paper will have to demonstrate a superconducting transition in both electrical resistivity and magnetization.

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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I would have said latex gatekeepers are the worst, but now I know eMacs geeks so no. Or was it vim? Can never tell!

‘eMacs’? It’s LaTeX that has the self-conscious capitalization!

There was a thing called an eMac once, it wasn't a text editor though.

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Could someone explain why this is important? What is the consequence of the existence of Superconductors like that?

The biggest near future tech for superconductors: fusion power. One huge area of exploration for fusion power is tokamok reactor design, which requires a very strong magnetic field to confine plasma within a round shape - typically a torus, though I think I read of one spherical shell. I suppose these don't necessarily need room temperature super conductors, but cheaper and easier to manufacture superconducting mater…

I think energy storage, motors / accelerators and weapons would come first. A superconducting linear motor would probably also make for a great cannon.

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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It’s real, it works, the Navy has a linked patent from 2017. The UFOs are a PSYOP.

The Navy does have a patent for a “lead zirconate titanate” super conductor which does sound awfully similar to what’s described in LK-99.

https://phys.org/news/2019-02-navy-patent-room-temperature-s...

Re: Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(PO₄)₆O

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Is my understanding correct that 100k at ambient pressure is pretty special on its own?

YBCO and BSCCO are superconductors around 100K at ambient pressure. Unfortunately their brittleness limits their practical use. Maybe LK-99 will have better mechanical properties.

Unfortunately no.

In this paper it is mentioned that the fact that the material is very fragile made it difficult to obtain pieces of a consistent size and form for measurements.

Moreover, from the results of the theoretical papers it is suggested that perhaps this material would work best as a monocrystal, with anisotropic conduction properties.

That could still have very important applications, but not for making cables or coils.

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