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Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

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Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

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Battery life would be the big thing, I think. There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks--they're beautiful devices--but if you're not getting something approaching MacOS's battery life, then there's not that much separating it from another similarly-specced ultrabook.

I doubt there would ever be parity but it could be good enough. Have to hand it Apple OS team, they know how to squeeze a lot out of there hardware. A while back I was trying to get an old G5 running and looking at the various OS options, many said just go with MacOS 10.4 - it was the most optimized OS for the system even today. When software and hardware work together, it can be pretty cool.

I mean, for a kind of museum piece, to get the true experience of using the computer I’d agree for sure just use original OS. But if one wanted to be able to use it for most functional purposes, it’s sad how the complete lack of backcompat in MacOS makes using an old MacOS tough — which is sad because new Linux often can work surprisingly fine on the same hardware. Like, current Debian on a 2008 Core 2 Duo is a fine computer that you can browse the Web and do basic office tasks on. It was shocking to me!

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#42

Battery life would be the big thing, I think. There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks--they're beautiful devices--but if you're not getting something approaching MacOS's battery life, then there's not that much separating it from another similarly-specced ultrabook.

I doubt there would ever be parity but it could be good enough. Have to hand it Apple OS team, they know how to squeeze a lot out of there hardware. A while back I was trying to get an old G5 running and looking at the various OS options, many said just go with MacOS 10.4 - it was the most optimized OS for the system even today. When software and hardware work together, it can be pretty cool.

As a Quad G5 owner, might I recommend OS X "Sorbet" It's an unofficial merging of OS X 10.5 with PowerPC builds of 10.6 components. Even on ancient G3's it out-performs both 10.4 and 10.5 in benchmarks

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#43

Battery life would be the big thing, I think. There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks--they're beautiful devices--but if you're not getting something approaching MacOS's battery life, then there's not that much separating it from another similarly-specced ultrabook.

I've been running Asahi for a full year on my m2 air. The battery life is quite good. Yes, I think macOS has batter battery optimizations than linux, but compared to other laptops running linux it really is quite good.

Talk with numbers. My cheap 6800H 14 inch laptop can do 12 hours.

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

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I've been running Asahi for a full year on my m2 air. The battery life is quite good. Yes, I think macOS has batter battery optimizations than linux, but compared to other laptops running linux it really is quite good.

It's good, but not amazing. With these laptops, you expect amazing.

Its better than any Dell or HP laptop that I've owned.

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been running Asahi for a full year on my m2 air. The battery life is quite good. Yes, I think macOS has batter battery optimizations than linux, but compared to other laptops running linux it really is quite good.

Talk with numbers. My cheap 6800H 14 inch laptop can do 12 hours.

They achieved 23 hours. https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/110548137464042...

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

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I used to hate on Macs until I was given one by my employer. Then I realized that despite how awful macOS is, the laptop itself is completely unrivalled. There is no Lenovo/xps/framework/tuxbook/tongfang/clevo/whatever that comes close to the overall package of a MacBook. It has the stiffest body, the quietest fans, the biggest battery, the best screen and trackpad, etc. Even worse is the fact that a framework 16 is…

Part of it is that Apple has the margins that they can spend a little more on parts. They know they don't have to compete on price as much as PCs do. People aren't going to ditch the Mac over $25 or $50. However, people do regularly compare prices on PC laptops looking to save small amounts of money. That means that Apple can spend a little more designing and ordering a fan that's quieter with a better design and mor…

>Part of it is that Apple has the margins that they can spend a little more on parts.

This part is duplicated by the business or professional branded products of Dell/HP/Lenovo/etc.

I think the part that cannot be duplicated (without very significant time and money) is the tight integration between software and hardware. Even if the other companies spend a little more for the premium components, they are not able to squeeze out the same performance.

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#47
post #11

Battery life would be the big thing, I think. There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks--they're beautiful devices--but if you're not getting something approaching MacOS's battery life, then there's not that much separating it from another similarly-specced ultrabook.

I'm perfectly content not having Linux on my M1 MacBook. That said, I don't want that to stop someone else from having it!

>There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks

Well… OP probably doesn’t know you… /s

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#48

Battery life would be the big thing, I think. There's not a single person I know who wouldn't like having Linux on their M1/M2 Macbooks--they're beautiful devices--but if you're not getting something approaching MacOS's battery life, then there's not that much separating it from another similarly-specced ultrabook.

Even if Linux kills 50% of battery life compared to macOS you’re still looking at a system that’s in the top tier of longevity compared to x86 Ultrabooks.

Re: Coming Soon: Fedora for Apple Silicon Macs

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt there would ever be parity but it could be good enough. Have to hand it Apple OS team, they know how to squeeze a lot out of there hardware. A while back I was trying to get an old G5 running and looking at the various OS options, many said just go with MacOS 10.4 - it was the most optimized OS for the system even today. When software and hardware work together, it can be pretty cool.

As a Quad G5 owner, might I recommend OS X "Sorbet" It's an unofficial merging of OS X 10.5 with PowerPC builds of 10.6 components. Even on ancient G3's it out-performs both 10.4 and 10.5 in benchmarks

Wait... how'd you get it working on G3 machines? As far as I know, 10.4 was the last release for G3s.
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