Reflex – Web apps in pure Python • Hacker News Board

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#31

Post by ptx » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:41 PM UTC

Worth noting is that this framework has telemetry [1] enabled by default [2] which gathers and sends off various information about your system unless you explicitly disable it.

[1] https://github.com/reflex-dev/reflex/blob/919f239168d789056d...

[2] https://github.com/reflex-dev/reflex/blob/919f239168d789056d...

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#32

Post by abdullahkhalids » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

I played with this yesterday. The counter demo app (two buttons and a number) transfers ~2.5MB compressed, which uncompresses to ~12MB.

Completely ridiculous!

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#33

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:43 PM UTC

jeron wrote: post #5

Why are we trying to fit a square peg into a round hole

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Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#34

Post by PaulHoule » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

Reminds me of some of the crazy stuff microsoft tried with ASP and ASP.NET back in the day that made it really hard to build applications in a disciplined way.

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#35

Post by matijash » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

I'm following Pynecone (now Reflex) from the start and liked the idea of building out an AST with Python and compiling that to a working web app (we're actually doing the same with https://wasp-lang.dev/, only it's a DSL and an explicit compiler with JS interop).

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#36

Post by tamimio » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:50 PM UTC

I don’t think this is a good idea, playing with the components there’s like a whole second for the checkbox to change status.. I don’t think python is even a good tool for ML/AI either. Maybe to prototype a UI but to be used in the wild, I don’t think so.

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#37

Post by paxys » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:51 PM UTC

lijok wrote: post #22

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #13

$5 million raised for hosting? I honestly fail to understand the ways of VC despite a decade of trying to understand them.

Hey, you know the most popular programming language in the world? They don't have a way to write web applications. If you fund us, we'll build a tool for that, tap into a huge TAM and make bank. Sounds like a pitch that would make VCs start falling over eachother

Close, except throw "AI" in there a few dozen times. Even the example they use in the README is for calling the DALL-E API.

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#38

Post by paxys » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:52 PM UTC

I haven't worked with Python in many years now. Do people not use Django or Flask anymore? What's the recommended web stack, and where does this one fit in?

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#39

Post by solarkraft » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:54 PM UTC

cjaybo wrote: post #9

toyg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JS got popular on the server because it was the default option on the client. Makes sense that Python should get popular on the client because it's the default option on the server.

Since when is Python the “default choice” for server side dev?

Well, it's very popular.

Which is why I'm a bit surprised that RPC/APIs still have as much overhead as they do, especially around types.

Re: Reflex – Web apps in pure Python

#40

Post by nighthawk454 » Wed, Aug 02, 2023, 5:55 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #38

I haven't worked with Python in many years now. Do people not use Django or Flask anymore? What's the recommended web stack, and where does this one fit in?

They're still good. The new one is FastAPI which is performant and supports concurrency, schema validation, and a few other modern nicities