Best debloat technique is to just switch to Linux
Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#132Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#133If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.
>it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint No need to be snarky for a cheap shot at windows users who never bothered you with anything, not everyone is trying to avoid jumping or trying to jump. Get out of your (tech) bubble and touch some grass, plenty of Average Joe users are contempt using what's familiar and works for them out of the box with…
It's telling that MS Windows users react so defensively to what was a very reasonable comment.
Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#134Why does win11 even exist, after w10 having been introduced as the final OS? What crap does it contain that couldn't be put into 10 via updates? Why would you use it voluntarily? I'm honestly curious.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Linux hivemind on HN would say that's OK, but that mindset is also why Linux has such a dismal consumer base. There should be a video player built it by default, yes, but it should also be easy to remove if you so choose.
Don't know when you last tried a Linux distro but most Linux distro's come with a video player out of the box and have done for the better part of the last 10 years at the very least
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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"
This was exactly what the EU ruled way back, yes
The EU government ruled that but no customer actually wanted it. The Windows N versions existed for legal reasons but that doesn't mean anyone bought them.
Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't know when you last tried a Linux distro but most Linux distro's come with a video player out of the box and have done for the better part of the last 10 years at the very least
Correction: most Linux distros come with 12 video players out of the box (and at least 7 calculator apps)...... the philosophy of "we can't decide so just include them all" is pretty strong.
That's usually from installing multiple window managers which all pull their own dependencies. It should be possible in principle to install enough of a window manager without installing unnecessary packages.
Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware
#138Has anyone here tried this? When projects like this normally pop up I see people talk about potential issues with future Windows updates.
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I'm in a bit of a tricky spot, in the next month or two I'll be building a new PC and I really don't know what to do about the OS. Windows is familiar, easy, and I know how to fix things with it, but the increasing amount of bloat and needless online integration is putting me off Windows 11 (my current W10 doesn't have the start menu online search thank God).
Recently I got sick of Windows 11's bloat + poor performance on my ThinkPad and Iinstalled Linux. I got a month and a half out of Fedora until something happened and half of my flatpaks would crash seconds after launch – even with terminal logs and the entire internet to sift through, I knew that I was way above my head. Currently I'm on Mint and hoping I don't run into anything like that again. I can use Linux, but I know the limits of my knowledge.
I can take a semi-disposable nature with what I put on my laptop, if I have to install another Linux distro I'll do it in a heartbeat. But with my desktop, I can't take the same approach. And again, Windows is familiar enough to me that I can diagnose + fix issues easily. I'd just like to know people's experiences with running scripts like this.
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It also removes the Video player which is odd because like, I feel like that kinda should be built into an OS?
Yes, but the Windows one isn't great. Something about codec licenses and having to install extra stuff from the Windows store make it sub par now.
I guess its nice that Linux and Windows can share a mutual frustration around shipping video codecs.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
For small-time users who aren't on a domain, there is no solution to reverted settings and other manifestations of contempt besides running LTSC. SWIM set himself up as an official IoT OEM to get legitimate licenses for his own use, but most people will have to pirate it. This is nobody's fault but Microsoft's.
I suspect that Microsoft's options were partially limited by people pirating Windows. To the extent that's true, I think the blame is shared. But that's just a footnote. I hold deep antipathy to Microsoft employees who made Windows into user-hostile spyware.
I don't think Microsoft has ever cared in the slightest about people pirating Windows. It's all about market share, as far as they're concerned, and market share is where you find it.