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Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

layer8 wrote: post #52
cobertos wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which parts are a mess? I don't think I could use Linux if it weren't for Linux Mint/Cinnamon specifically, as I haven't had good experiences with other desktop enviroments. It has one or two quirks, but at this point it's far less quirks than a fresh Windows install and the list of config options I had to change/the .reg file I started accumulating

> Which parts are a mess? Usability conventions between GUI applications. Keyboardability. GUI automation à la AutoHotKey. Font rendering. X vs. Wayland.

xdotool is AutoHotKey for Linux. (ydotool on Wayland, if you've switched for some reason.)

On any Linux DE, you have native configurable key shortcuts (binding commands to keystrokes).

On KDE, Win+right-click for resizing a window from anywhere in the window (no need to click the edges) is awesome. Win+left-click for moving a window from anywhere in the window (no need to click the title bar) is awesome. Ctrl+Alt+Esc to turn your cursor into a little skull and crossbones and instantly kill whatever program you click the window of is awesome. Dolphin is amazing compared to Explorer (tabs, split views, rich file metadata displayed right below filenames).

Alt+tab to summon krunner, a tiny temporary window in the middle of the screen. Type the name of an app, Enter, and it launches. Type a math equation, and it evaluates it. Type "define" and a word, and it pulls a dictionary definition.

Clipboard history in the tray (works with pictures!). Related, Flameshot, which puts Window's Snippet Tool to shame. Like on Windows, Win+. for the emoji picker, but with more modern emojis than Windows currently supports. Customizable emoji fonts, too, unlike on Windows (Twemoji, the one Discord uses, is the best).

Gwenview is better than Window's Photos, and Okular is better than Adobe Reader.

Windows UX has nothing on KDE's UX, and I never wanna go back to an OS that can't translate billions of dollars to features I can get for free because it treats me as a dataminable cost center.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by nerdjon »

anaisbetts wrote: post #98
nerdjon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find anything saying it is meant for Kiosk applications that more that this is simply a long term support version of Windows that also removes a lot of the things that are not necessary in an enterprise setting. Now yes it was missing some of the things necessary for gaming but when I installed the Xbox app it easily also installed the other missing components. Windows on my Steam Deck gets daily use from me…

From https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ove... : > The Long-Term Servicing Channel is not intended for deployment on most or all the PCs in an organization. The LTSC edition of Windows 10 provides customers with access to a deployment option for their special-purpose devices and environments. These devices typically perform a single important task and don’t need feature updates as frequently as…

Nothing about that really screams "kiosk" to me.

That to me says a purpose built computer, which both my desktop and steam deck sole purpose is to play games.

I don't need regular updates either, I need a stable OS. Most games are not on the bleeding edge of technology and need the latest Windows features, especially if those features are not back ported to Windows 10.

Again will point out that I am running this daily on my Steam Deck for gaming and have had zero issues with compatibility.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by anaisbetts »

nerdjon wrote: post #102
anaisbetts wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ove... : > The Long-Term Servicing Channel is not intended for deployment on most or all the PCs in an organization. The LTSC edition of Windows 10 provides customers with access to a deployment option for their special-purpose devices and environments. These devices typically perform a single important task and don’t need feature updates as frequently as…

Nothing about that really screams "kiosk" to me. That to me says a purpose built computer, which both my desktop and steam deck sole purpose is to play games. I don't need regular updates either, I need a stable OS. Most games are not on the bleeding edge of technology and need the latest Windows features, especially if those features are not back ported to Windows 10. Again will point out that I am running this dail…

It's fine that it's working for you, but I was describing what its intended purpose is. If you're happy with using your wrench to hammer in nails, I'm certainly not going to stop you!

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

empyrrhicist wrote: post #40
layer8 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite the slow enshittification of the Windows GUI, I still prefer it to the mess Linux has on the GUI front. Linux is great for CLI and headless. Hence I combine both.

I've been using default Gnome and PopOS's Gnome version as daily drivers for years , probably like 10 years or so. I also keep a Windows partition for gaming and use Windows at work. Can't say I've had any problems.

Well, one glaringly obvious problem is that you're using GNOME.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by nguyenkien »

nerdjon wrote: post #102
anaisbetts wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ove... : > The Long-Term Servicing Channel is not intended for deployment on most or all the PCs in an organization. The LTSC edition of Windows 10 provides customers with access to a deployment option for their special-purpose devices and environments. These devices typically perform a single important task and don’t need feature updates as frequently as…

Nothing about that really screams "kiosk" to me. That to me says a purpose built computer, which both my desktop and steam deck sole purpose is to play games. I don't need regular updates either, I need a stable OS. Most games are not on the bleeding edge of technology and need the latest Windows features, especially if those features are not back ported to Windows 10. Again will point out that I am running this dail…

Look like it's MS way to shoo people away from this version (Which contain no bloatware)

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #55
prmoustache wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which mess? I see choice. My choice may not be the same as yours. Most major desktop projects allows you to have a clean and powerful desktop whose ergonomy is superior to those provided by current proprietary OSes.

What are some ways in which they are superior?

Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36970679

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by davidmurdoch »

anaisbetts wrote: post #67
mellosouls wrote: post #41

Had a quick skim. Hmm, Teams, OneNote and Remote Desktop considered bloatware, gaming apps not. Not sure of the target demographic for this. Perhaps worth considering very carefully before running in productivity or office environments, assuming you have access.

It also removes the Video player which is odd because like, I feel like that kinda should be built into an OS?

Yes, but the Windows one isn't great. Something about codec licenses and having to install extra stuff from the Windows store make it sub par now.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by zer8k »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #38
nerdjon wrote: post #11

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I disagree, you are comparing a one time setup vs re-learning how to use your computer. Not to mention any later compatibility issues you may need to diagnose, particularly with gaming. Not everything works with Proton and there are other stores than just Steam. A debloated Windows is still Windows. Bundle this with a "use these debloat settings for gaming" and it could be just clicking a couple of buttons for the ma…

Windows breaks all the time for lots of people. My brother has a weird issue with his computer where it gets temporarily stuck in a boot loop if "fast startup" is enabled in Windows. After I figured this out I turned it off and it was fine(and booted faster!). Then Windows update happened and the setting was switched back on again. I'm not sure how to solve it other than periodically making sure it hasn't magically b…

I have had nothing but trouble with Linux and Nvidia drivers. I am willing to put up with it because I love Linux distros but I do not recommend Linux to anyone because it still hasn't got enough polish the average person can use it without loss of generality.

Windows has it's own set of problems. However, it's intuitive enough that Grandma can pick it up reasonably quickly. There's something to be said about that.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by MrYellowP »

Gud wrote: post #82
anaisbetts wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"

Yes, exactly. A video player should be easily installed via the operating systems package manager.

Rando: "Gud, why's there no video player installed? How do I get to play my video player?"

Gud: "Just use the operating system's package manager."

Rando: "What's that? How do I find it?"

Gud explains what it is and how to find it.

Rando: "Wow, finally found it. What do I do next?"

Gud: "You search for a video player. Try [...]."

Rando: "I can't find it. This sucks. Why is there no video player installed by default? Makes no fucking sense."

Two hours later you've managed to achieve installation.

Rando: "I don't like this player. I want a different one."

Yeah. No. A video player should be installed by default.

Period.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by housemusicfan »

yabones wrote: post #70

Some bad advice in there... Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Force Should be: Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Scope Process Turning off that feature permanently is a bad idea.

You're trying to convince a bunch of people that think

  curl | sudo sh
with random scripts off the internet is perfectly okay.
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