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Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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No, no it shouldn't.

Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"

Wouldn't it be a sensible default to open and play the video with the web browser?

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

>it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint No need to be snarky for a cheap shot at windows users who never bothered you with anything, not everyone is trying to avoid jumping or trying to jump. Get out of your (tech) bubble and touch some grass, plenty of Average Joe users are contempt using what's familiar and works for them out of the box with…

I didn't read the GP comment as bashing.

I read it as simply asserting that the levels of effort were closer than some Windows users realize.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Which parts are a mess? I don't think I could use Linux if it weren't for Linux Mint/Cinnamon specifically, as I haven't had good experiences with other desktop enviroments. It has one or two quirks, but at this point it's far less quirks than a fresh Windows install and the list of config options I had to change/the .reg file I started accumulating

> Which parts are a mess? Usability conventions between GUI applications. Keyboardability. GUI automation à la AutoHotKey. Font rendering. X vs. Wayland.

Modern Windows has problems with all of these as well due to the divide between classic Win32/MFC/etc programs, modern UWP/WinUI programs, and Electron programs (which each have a completely unique user interface).

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

Just curious, does mint have an easy to set up cloud file system (easy as in login, click “yes backup”, and done) does it integrate with the word processor and spreadsheet software so that atomic changes are saved in real-time creating an easy version history? Do those same programs have online equivalents that allow multiple users to edit at the same time as me? Forget gaming, 90% of what I use my personal computer…

Look up Free office; it's a 99% identical clone of the Microsoft Office suite for Mac and Linux, and it's free.

Couple that with Dropbox (which has version history for files on its paid plan), and you're good to go. Dolphin, the best file manager, also integrates with Dropbox nicely.

I don't know why anyone Linux-literate would recommend Mint though. Try KDE instead. I recommend Manjaro, which is a managed rolling release that always has brand new software. KDE is the best desktop environment on Linux, the most powerfully customizable and feature-rich as well as the most Windows-like. (Mint uses Cinnamon, which is much worse, fringe, and crashy than KDE. Linux Mint is what children use as their first distro lol.)

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Humbly submitting Chris Titus' Debloat tool as well for comparison. I've enjoyed using Chris' tool, as the GUI design makes it easy to a-la-carte select which you want removed and not, along with recommendations. Makes it very clear to see what's being removed. https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

It looks neat, but running off of his site directly via an administrator elevated powershell is an awful security practice.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Windows breaks all the time for lots of people. My brother has a weird issue with his computer where it gets temporarily stuck in a boot loop if "fast startup" is enabled in Windows. After I figured this out I turned it off and it was fine(and booted faster!). Then Windows update happened and the setting was switched back on again. I'm not sure how to solve it other than periodically making sure it hasn't magically b…

For small-time users who aren't on a domain, there is no solution to reverted settings and other manifestations of contempt besides running LTSC. SWIM set himself up as an official IoT OEM to get legitimate licenses for his own use, but most people will have to pirate it. This is nobody's fault but Microsoft's.

I suspect that Microsoft's options were partially limited by people pirating Windows.

To the extent that's true, I think the blame is shared.

But that's just a footnote. I hold deep antipathy to Microsoft employees who made Windows into user-hostile spyware.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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How's StartAllBack compare to other software like Start11?

Afaik is the only one that supports a vertical sidebar.

I wish there was one of these Start replacement programs that expanded the functionality instead of just giving back what Microsoft has taken from us. How about a Taskbar that auto-hides but only after a certain amount of time? How about a Taskbar that expands to show additional rows when you have a lot of windows open and hides itself when you don't?

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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LTSC versions of Windows are literally missing major features and APIs, you should not be surprised if certain apps don't work on this version of Windows. It's designed for kiosk applications, not general purpose computers.

I can't find anything saying it is meant for Kiosk applications that more that this is simply a long term support version of Windows that also removes a lot of the things that are not necessary in an enterprise setting. Now yes it was missing some of the things necessary for gaming but when I installed the Xbox app it easily also installed the other missing components. Windows on my Steam Deck gets daily use from me…

From https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ove...:

> The Long-Term Servicing Channel is not intended for deployment on most or all the PCs in an organization. The LTSC edition of Windows 10 provides customers with access to a deployment option for their special-purpose devices and environments. These devices typically perform a single important task and don’t need feature updates as frequently as other devices in the organization

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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post #68

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No, no it shouldn't.

Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"

The Linux hivemind on HN would say that's OK, but that mindset is also why Linux has such a dismal consumer base. There should be a video player built it by default, yes, but it should also be easy to remove if you so choose.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Afaik is the only one that supports a vertical sidebar.

What about top

The one thing I miss about Vista is the ability to have the whole My Computer menu bar across the top of your desktop.
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