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Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by unethical_ban »

Black616Angel wrote: post #6
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

No, then they tell you about all the not-working AAA-games they boycott and why that somehow hinders them of using Linux, which they by the way already tried in 1995 and it didn't work out back then so why should it now?

That's quite a fantasy you've cooked up there.

There is nothing demonic about happily gaming on the supported software platform. I have Windows because I play games built for Windows.

I have Fedora on my laptop.

Edit: oh yeah, a fresh KDE fedora install with encrypted volumes can't open the file manager without doing a one time cli to create a thumbnails directory. And I can't watch h26(4|5) videos in YouTube, supposedly unless I enable a 3p repo and install a package which gives me a dependency conflict.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by [deleted] »

Black616Angel wrote: post #6
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

No, then they tell you about all the not-working AAA-games they boycott and why that somehow hinders them of using Linux, which they by the way already tried in 1995 and it didn't work out back then so why should it now?

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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by XorNot »

cobertos wrote: post #14
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

I was this person. I would have switched _years_ earlier had I known that with Linux Mint I would get Windows-like desktop, hotkeys, and explorer, taskbar, etc, which was so much better than my experiences with Ubuntu and Unity and other desktop environments. Cinnamon (Mint's desktop environment) is really nice. I regret not doing it sooner, my development life has become more focused and easier.

Yeah Cinnamon was really the turning point for me.

The reality is Windows 95 more or less nailed the last paradigm we needed in desktop computing, and everything else is minor refinements.

Cinnamon apes that very sensibly.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by sokoloff »

blantonl wrote: post #16

Imagine the goodwill Microsoft could garner with advanced users if this was a simple mouse click during the installation. Advanced Install > Minimal Install

How much is the goodwill of those advanced users worth (incrementally over today) compared to the rev-share and advertising dollars they’d lose by regular users choosing this after watching a YouTube or two?

Yeah, I’d like it, but it’s not hard to see why Microsoft doesn’t want to offer it.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by j1elo »

throwingtoofar wrote: post #20

An alternative is Optimize-Offline[0] which uses deprovisioning to remove packages from a Windows install ISO. This is a method which mimics Windows' official methods which should prevent things being re-added when updating. There are also tweaks to remove the TPM requirement and allow Windows 11 to run on older unsupported CPUs. [0] https://github.com/gdeliana/Optimize-Offline Edit: To mention there is also an optio…

Not sure if your link is really a viable alternative. The first line of the Readme says it is for Windows 10:

> Optimize-Offline is a Windows Image (WIM/ESD) optimization module designed for Windows 10 versions 1803-to-2009 64-bit architectures.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by layer8 »

techload wrote: post #8

BloatyNosy (similar to ThisIsWin11) is better: https://github.com/builtbybel/BloatyNosy/releases

It seems this requires you to use a GUI? I find a customizable script that I can run in one go and repeatedly preferable.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by jeroenhd »

danuker wrote: post #7
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

I have been surprised how easy it was to get my not-too-technically-savvy mum to use Manjaro. She spends the vast majority (if not all) of her time in the browser, so there's no difference.

I wouldn't have gone for Manjaro, but Linux environments with user friendly interfaces are great for many more people than they would appear to be at first glance.

You'll need to play tech support every now and then ("I have a new printer, and...") and you'll need to teach people the basics, but a lot of occasional computer users will be happy with modern Linux.

However, if you use your computer for your job, you'll either have an interest in learning how to accomplish it, or you'll have an awful time using Linux. Microsoft Office still has an edge over any open source product out there. Games work (sort of) through Steam, but if your games come from Epic you'll need to dive into the world of alternative launchers and compatibility layers to play them (if they even work at all). VPN/RDP software can usually work, if you put in the effort to learn about how they work under the hood and what configuration files you need to edit.

This leads to a pretty wacky parabolic usability graph, where Linux is great for the people with the least amount of interest and knowledge about computers and for computer experts, but bad to unusable for those in the middle between the two.

Desktop Linux has been bridging the gap, with more and better GUIs and better defaults, but as long as we'll have loud, hardcore "everybody needs to know the terminal or they shouldn't use Linux at all" Linux users I'm afraid ChromeOS will eat Linux's lunch before anyone even notices.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by cobertos »

layer8 wrote: post #13
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

Despite the slow enshittification of the Windows GUI, I still prefer it to the mess Linux has on the GUI front. Linux is great for CLI and headless. Hence I combine both.

Which parts are a mess?

I don't think I could use Linux if it weren't for Linux Mint/Cinnamon specifically, as I haven't had good experiences with other desktop enviroments. It has one or two quirks, but at this point it's far less quirks than a fresh Windows install and the list of config options I had to change/the .reg file I started accumulating

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