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Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by marcus_holmes »

I use a lot for debugging Go html templates.

    {{if .DevMode}}
    
    Data
    {{.}}
    
    {{end}}
It's nicely unobtrusive when collapsed, doesn't mess up the page completely. Then expands to the full glory when needed.

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by satvikpendem »

bingemaker wrote: post #38
nzoschke wrote: post #5

Great read and interactive demo. After a few years of dabbling with Flutter I just came back to the same conclusion: bet on HTML. Astro / Tailwind / Daisy UI / Alpine.js makes it lovely to build an HTML site with a lot of simple SSR and a little bit of client side reactivity peppered about. The result is simple sane HTML files that look and work great on desktop web browser and and mobile wrapped web view. My app is…

Exporting to web using Flutter is a nightmare I believe. When I checked last time, rendering happens on a canvas. There is no markup at all

I use Flutter for some web apps, it works fine. It's good for web apps, not web sites, and compared to other desktop or mobile apps, there is literally no difference between rendering on a canvas to rendering on Qt or SwiftUI. People, in my experience, just get up in arms about the web that does not happen with other technologies.

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by cloked »

nzoschke wrote: post #5

Great read and interactive demo. After a few years of dabbling with Flutter I just came back to the same conclusion: bet on HTML. Astro / Tailwind / Daisy UI / Alpine.js makes it lovely to build an HTML site with a lot of simple SSR and a little bit of client side reactivity peppered about. The result is simple sane HTML files that look and work great on desktop web browser and and mobile wrapped web view. My app is…

yup, Astro and "islands architecture" is such a joy to work with.

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by satvikpendem »

kapitanjakc wrote: post #7

HTML is that nerd who's rich now. Give me HTML,CSS,JS combo any day over some complex js library or platform.

Good luck making anything complex by relying on a bespoke library for DOM updates. In contrast, React became a breath of fresh air, emulating the game development approach to rendering new frames: just literally rebuild the components.

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by catskull »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #27

Hey OP, I notice you're using Berkeley Mono, which is beautiful. But your website's CSS appears to be applying boldface on an already boldface font in the headers (despite the typeface name claiming to be 'Regular', it is actually bold; see the datasheet[1]), which is causing bad hinting. Consider changing your typeface file! [1]: https://cdn.berkeleygraphics.com/static/typefaces/berkeley-m...

Thank you, I believe I have fixed it. TIL variable fonts on web are not great! AFAIK they don't distribute the regular/bold/italic/bold italic 4 font mix?

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by troupo »

satvikpendem wrote: post #42
bingemaker wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exporting to web using Flutter is a nightmare I believe. When I checked last time, rendering happens on a canvas. There is no markup at all

I use Flutter for some web apps, it works fine. It's good for web apps, not web sites, and compared to other desktop or mobile apps, there is literally no difference between rendering on a canvas to rendering on Qt or SwiftUI. People, in my experience, just get up in arms about the web that does not happen with other technologies.

> compared to other desktop or mobile apps, there is literally no difference between rendering on a canvas to rendering on Qt or SwiftUI.

Except, you know, accessibility.

> just get up in arms about the web that does not happen with other technologies.

And for a good reason.

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by Knee_Pain »

As always, people almost never RTFM. When I see webdevs implement a hamburger menu with pure CSS I almost shed a tear.

For the love if god, study your tools! (and not from SEO spam articles)

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by aitchnyu »

I have been using JS widgets instead of datetime-local inputs because of patchy desktop browser support years back. In FF on Mac I noticed time widget with prefilled times in datalist doesn't work as intended. Should we still rely on the widgets if there are browser kinks?

I also feel multivalued tag inputs also require JS widgets. Is there a pure HTML version?

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