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I'm betting on HTML

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Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by pbohun »

I didn't realize some of these elements existed. Neat! However, I think if we want an open/federated system to win, we need to make it compelling to normal people. That means making it fun and entertaining. I've found that no argument about freedom, privacy, or anything actually important will work.

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Post by nzoschke »

Great read and interactive demo.

After a few years of dabbling with Flutter I just came back to the same conclusion: bet on HTML.

Astro / Tailwind / Daisy UI / Alpine.js makes it lovely to build an HTML site with a lot of simple SSR and a little bit of client side reactivity peppered about.

The result is simple sane HTML files that look and work great on desktop web browser and and mobile wrapped web view.

My app is basically static so it caches in a CDN, works offline, and view source makes it easy to debug.

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Post by anyfactor »

Tangent.

> I wrote this post and then GPT-4 fixed my grammer and spelling

I wrote an Autohotkey + Go script that I constantly use for fixing grammar using ChatGPT's API. You can select the text, press F8, wait a bit, and your input will be replaced by correctly grammatical text. The only catch is that it "fixes" the tone and makes it professional, which is kinda annoying.

Feel free to try it out: https://github.com/anyfactor/Chatgpt_grammar_checker

Re: I'm betting on HTML

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Post by klardotsh »

I had heard of almost none of these HTML elements, and that's such a shame, because they could seriously help put the "we need JavaScript for every gosh darn thing" ecosystem to an end (or at least return JS to what it was originally meant to be: a way to add some flair, some interactivity, some whatever, but not necessarily a replacement for all of your markup and a full-DOM manager).

I'm starting to think my dream browser might be something like visurf https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/visurf/ but with the underlying Netsurf engine updated to support various modern HTML+CSS, such as these elements. I bet you could have a nearly JS-free smolweb through that browser that:

1. is more accessible (in the "doesn't break screenreaders, system theming, keybinds, etc" way)

2. could be made to use way fewer resources than these heavy JS contraptions these elements can replace

3. would still be able to do most things we expect the median web app of today to do (sure, fire up Firefox for WebGL or whatever still, but I could see, say, a Matrix client potentially needing only a smidge of JS (largely for WebSockets and E2EE stuff) over top of very-modern HTML)

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