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Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by VeninVidiaVicii »

jrflowers wrote: post #76
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #43

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> I don’t see how someone can possibly be expected to have the personality to gather (human) intel, but somehow not ever have smoked weed. It's not clear to me how these would have absolutely any relationship at all.

Weed is ubiquitous enough in American culture these days that it’s not unreasonable to associate “I’ve never tried cannabis” with religious orthodoxy or some other conservative behavior-limiting values. It’s not uncommon to hear something along the lines of old DARE talking points about gateway drugs or schizophrenia from people that have refused to try it, which can make a person seem like a… square.

Thanks for being so eloquent — this was exactly what I was trying to say.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by bill_joy_fanboy »

astrange wrote: post #142
bill_joy_fanboy wrote: post #132

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The United States is constantly at war. If spying prevents war, it's not working. LOL...

No, we're not in a war. Thanks Biden. What's your counterfactual?

This has gotta be the most intellectually dishonest comment I've ever read.

Nobody trusts U.S. intelligence agencies anymore, bro. Whatever.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by beefok »

lesuorac wrote: post #165
beefok wrote: post #140

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That sounds dangerous as hell. No one should live that way. If you aren't allowed to question leadership and are instead expected to do "what you are told", then all the experiments and horrors studies on group think are a reality at a dangerous level [1][2][3] What if you think an order is dangerous and have good reasons why? Good leadership needs to know what the ground-level knows, they need good input and questio…

There's a reason the Stanford Prison Experiment was never published in a peer review paper. It was garbage science with a lot of problems.

Wow, is that the only thing you got from my comment? I'm highlighting examples of why it's a serious problem and people need to think for themselves.

We know what group-think does way beyond the experiment. We have a very well-documented history on it. Read Soviet and Nazi history, you'll see what it can do. It's almost universal in big groups of humans.

If a police officer told you to shoot another person, would you do it? If 3 police officers tell you to do it, would you do it? How many police officers will it take to make you shoot the person?

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by myko »

RajT88 wrote: post #91
tomrod wrote: post #72

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Yes and no. It's very minor outside of the US except for some island nations in the Pacific. Mormon membership numbers of actual adherents are likely 20% to 40% of membership claimed based on "inactivity" rates (and people leaving).

I learned about the pacific island nations, after I learned that the Polynesian Cultural Center in Hawaii is owned and operated by the LDS Church. Samoa is a big one I guess.

It was a jarring experience going to see a luau there and seeing white kids playing the main roles in their show. Pretty terrible place, really.

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Post by xboxnolifes »

w0de0 wrote: post #229
Zircom wrote: post #181

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So why is getting shitfaced the night before flying a plane or jumping in a 20 story crane okay but not smoking a joint?

The FAA prohibits pilots from drinking 8 hours before a flight. They further recommend 24 hours of abstention. It’s not okay, Zircom. https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media...

cannabis tests check 30 days, not 8 hours. Hangovers can happen past 8 hours as well. Balls in your court, w0de0.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by xboxnolifes »

tough wrote: post #45
dragonwriter wrote: post #41

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No, they don’t want people who get caught lying, and if you don’t get caught, its indistinguishable from not lying.

Well, my -getting a pass- meant precisely not being caught... It's a nice filter for the job

You "get a pass" by lying in all situations where you don't get caught.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by escapedmoose »

dhanna wrote: post #22
escapedmoose wrote: post #14

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While I agree with your general point, recall that DC is on the East Coast, and that there recreational marijuana use isn’t nearly so culturally accepted as it is on the West.

That’s funny because weed shops in DC are a dime a dozen.

But are likely less prominent in the 2-hour-commute radius from which many federal workers are driving.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by throw10920 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #77
tracker1 wrote: post #15

Or... just decriminalize it altogether, including forgiveness of past use.

As long as republicans continue to say no to that, it's impossible to do. Democrats basically never have actual control over the American Government, it's happened like 4 years out of the past 20, and that's not a new phenomenon. Even in the times they have had "full" control of all portions of government, republican senators are still able to "block" stuff through made up rules and "norms" that democrats don't want…

Please keep partisan politics off of HN.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by abenga »

addisonl wrote: post #198
yardie wrote: post #114

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Big church right in the middle of Paris. On prime, riverside real estate. That can't be cheap and last time I passed by it was missionaries and exchange students coming in and out.

Wealthiest religion in the world, they have massive real estate holdings.

Wait, isn't this the Catholic church, having accumulated wealth for centuries?
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