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LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Post by hgomersall »

jacquesm wrote: post #369
jjoonathan wrote: post #314

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Funny, I think that you believe what you do without evidence primarily due to the propaganda spread by the wealthy elite that own and control the system and want to deflect blame for serious problems away from themselves by blaming the government. The private sector is bigger than the public sector, both in terms of dollar expenditure and in terms of political power. Politicians have to be vetted by rich people (the…

> Capitalism is great at growth and terrible at stewardship. It wins a land grab but it leaves behind a nasty class structure. Is it worth it? I have no idea. I just try to win. I'm a lot less certain than I used to be, though. I think we're roughly on the same page. The interesting part about capitalism is that it scales fantastically, for a while and as long as the bills aren't due you can improve your standard of…

I really like this discussion because it's a rare example of things being discussed in real terms, where the financial considerations are secondary; actual power over real resources being wielded by the wealthy.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Post by bawolff »

plutonorm wrote: post #468
KennyBlanken wrote: post #345

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"I don't do videos of things I intend to be writing a text from. Ever. It's bad tone. I hate when it happens to me, and I don't want anyone to share this fate" Ah, yes. The good old incoherent "here's why I can't do something totally normal" excuse. Looking through their tweet history, they're an insufferable and toxic troll.

This makes it more believable not less. History is littered with nut jobs achieving. The wilder the story the more credibility I give it. Within bounds. Universe is optimised for entertainment and irony

That's pretty untrue. Its just that nobody remembers the crackpots that achieve nothing.

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Post by jabedude »

Accujack wrote: post #463
ccity88 wrote: post #2

Iris Alexandra's twitter is especially enthralling. Seems like so much discoveries and innovation happens from computer science to physics, chemistry and biology all from people with anime profile pictures.

She's acknowledged her results were a hoax at this point.

Where? Saying something like this should be accompanied with proof

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

bhouston wrote: post #111
ssijak wrote: post #66

For such an important discovery (if it is real), that seems it could be replicated in a few days, if I were the team that did the discovery, I would create a video recording of the whole process and all the measurements and share it with the textual article. It sounds like that would provide for an easier way to replicate plus more proofs of the discovery.

The team that did the discovery seems disorganized and amateurish though, and with the multiple papers all submitted at the same time by competing factions, riff with infighting - but they stuck with a hunch for longer than anyone else and followed it doggedly. If it turns out to be true, it will be a great movie with an underdog making one of the biggest discoveries of the century.

Their amateurishness and the infighting somehow makes me think this is legitimate.

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Post by bluGill »

bhouston wrote: post #376
bananapub wrote: post #300

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what are you talking about? the authors haven't given anyone a sample to inspect, so every other solid state physics lab in the world is instead trying to follow the notional recipe and test their own sample.

> the authors haven't given anyone a sample to inspect Why not? It would help their case immensely, especially if replication is tricky.

There are claims that they are going to share, but since it is fragile and they only have a few samples the logistics are tricky. They might not be telling the truth about sharing samples, but I'd wait a couple months before accusing them of lies. In fact if they share too quick I'd suspect it is so they can ship a box of dust and claim shipping damaged the only sample!

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Post by nonethewiser »

TillE wrote: post #424
nonethewiser wrote: post #62

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In one of the notes it says > Red phosphorus cannot be obtained on short notice from a new customer in the USA due to DEA restrictions

"From a new customer" is the key phrase. This is only a serious issue for amateurs, not for real established labs.

It’s definitely a serious issue for amateurs or new entrants in general but I think it’s conceivable that a capable and legitimate institution might want to or otherwise be able to run the experiment, but they just didnt happen to have red phosphorus.

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Post by bluGill »

junofan wrote: post #275
bhouston wrote: post #269

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Yeah, having another lab confirm the behavior and makeup of that sample would go a long way. I wonder why that isn’t happening? Does anyone have an explanation on why no one is examining/validating the sample they already have?

I mean they already characterized it six ways to Sunday and posted a video of it levitating.

Any physicist can make up something that sounds reasonable to other physicists. With a little trick photography (or CGI!) you can make a video something levitating that looks like room temperature super conductors.

Don't read the above as an accusation. Only a justification to wait until it is replicated.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

stainablesteel wrote: post #221
asimpletune wrote: post #177

So, Russian anime cat girl seems to have cooked a sample and demonstrated some of the claimed properties, although she's explicit that it shouldn't be considered a "replication". https://twitter.com/iris_IGB/status/1685731177523449856

its always the people with an anime pfp that do the most godly shit

If you could magically erase all anime from the world, the global tech industry would come to a grinding halt :)

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Post by [deleted] »

perlgeek wrote: post #99
aqme28 wrote: post #52

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Someone on Twitter spoke on this, so I cant' confirm its accuracy. They said that the reagents for this are usually made in China. As soon as this paper was published, labs in China bought out the reserves and they became hard to source in the West.

Weren't the raw materials lead, copper, sulfur and phosphorous or something like that? Seems hard to to buy out elements that are so common in industrial and chemical processes.

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