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SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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To be fair the same thing happens in the regular world. e.g. look at a list of the richest people in the USA and see how they made their money.

Elon, Bezos, Bill Gates, Ellison, Buffet, Paige, Brin, Ballmer, Bloomberg, Walton --- which of those billion/trillion dollar companies do you think in any way compares to the shambolic crypto world?

I mean, we joke that Oracle is a legal company with an engineering department... but at least they build things.

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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$1 billion in crypto, so not real money. $1 billion on IOU's from some other ponzi scheme. Right after it states that they're also charged "misappropriating at least $12 million of offering proceeds" which seems like a more reasonable figure. They probably stole in the order of $12-20 million.

The article mentions at least 2 million Ethereum, which is certainly liquid enough to be a couple orders of magnitude above $10 million.

If we're both running our own ponzi scheme and you give me $1 worth IOUs to your ponzi scheme, before later readjusting your ponzi scheme to be worth 1000x what it was previously. I would on paper have $1000 of your money, since that's what my IOU in your ponzi scheme is now "worth". If my ponzi scheme then folds before yours, you could claim that I've defrauded you for $1000, but I'd argue I haven't defrauded you in any real sense, in fact you tried to defraud me, and I just so happened to fail at defrauding my customers first.

Maybe Ethereum is "liquid" enough to absorb that withdrawal (Madoff was plenty liquid until he wasn't), that doesn't mean there's actually any real value.

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon, Bezos, Bill Gates, Ellison, Buffet, Paige, Brin, Ballmer, Bloomberg, Walton --- which of those billion/trillion dollar companies do you think in any way compares to the shambolic crypto world?

I mean, we joke that Oracle is a legal company with an engineering department... but at least they build things.

Right. I don't like most of the people on that list and e.g. Oracle is a mess of a company that is actively hostile to the software world -- but they still sold $42 billion worth of goods/services to willing customers last year. Nothing at all like crypto trading.

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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Thank god, that guy was incredibly obnoxious.

You can say that again. A total narcissist scammer of the worst kind. He started with Viagra spam and then found crypto shilling. He liked to hang out on HN to shill his scams and recruit developers, but I may have accidentally made him feel uncomfortable by asking him lots of pointed questions about his past, and he hasn't shown his face in a while. His go-to response is literally "Dodge, dodge!" His real name is ac…

Given the difficulties in payments when it comes to gray-market dick pills, I’m surprised he wasn’t an early bitcoin whale and made more than enough from that to just retire.

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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The article mentions at least 2 million Ethereum, which is certainly liquid enough to be a couple orders of magnitude above $10 million.

There’s a fair amount of liquidity, but trying to withdraw 1 billion in Eth is going to impact it’s valuation.

ETH has a $223b market cap, so 1b is .45%.

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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fun fact, Richard used to sell email spam software. Is shitcoin pumping a step up or a step down? Richard is a very charming fellow, very likable, but in a way that cautions you not to let any of your money within a mile of him.

Charming??! I've known enough of his kind that his "charm" immediately sets off all of my Malignant Narcissist Klaxons. He's charming in the same sense that the creepy guy driving the windowless "FREE CANDY" van is generous. And you only mentioned the tip of the Spamberg -- it goes MUCH deeper: His real name is actually Richard J Schueler, under which he is famously known as the "Spam King", for being one of the firs…

Trump is spending $40m of his donations on a legal defense fund, so I'm pretty sure the answer to your question is no.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pac-spent-40m-legal-bi...

Re: SEC Charges Hex Founder Richard Heart with Misappropriating Millions of Dollars

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There’s a fair amount of liquidity, but trying to withdraw 1 billion in Eth is going to impact it’s valuation.

ETH has a $223b market cap, so 1b is .45%.

No? It's not?
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