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Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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> So much time, money and CO2 could be saved by another/bigger atick of RAM. I did eventually get a 256 MB stick of RAM. iirc I was already out of high school at that point. One point I don't hear being talked about too much is how hopeful and stupid we were in the late nineties and early two thousands. We were supposed to have 10GHz processors by 2005, or I mean mass market for consumers by the end of the decade, at…

>One point I don't hear being talked about too much is how hopeful and stupid we were in the late nineties and early two thousands. We were supposed to have 10GHz processors by 2005, or I mean mass market for consumers by the end of the decade, at the latest? I think a lot of those predictions came from a world unconcerned with cores and threading. The jump from sub ghz to 1 ghz (p2 to p3) came about suddenly, the ju…

Not just cores and threading but implementation efficiency, which is a couple of orders of magnitude better today than it was in the late 90s.

Clock speeds were always more about marketing than actual performance.

There are a few power-user applications where a 10X to 1000X speed bump would be very welcome - mostly video, audio, and AI.

For example - if you generate/process audio at 32X or 64X oversampling you can eliminate all of the usual DSP and conversion artefacts, even for difficult processes like non-linear distortion.

But for most applications, most users have more cycles than they need.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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I like skeuomorphism but the windows look has always put me off.

I would say the pinnacle of the skeumorphism era in term of desktop aesthetics and behavior was QNX photon microgui:

Give me that with dpi scaling capabilities and modern font rendering and I will be happy:

http://nixon-development.com/guis/qnx/mediaplayer.png

http://nixon-development.com/guis/qnx/apps.png

With BeOS 5 in close second and MacOS 9 in third.

The windows 9x/2000/XP were all ugly in comparison.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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bottom-end (600-900) dollar range in 2001-2002ish got you between 128mb and 256mb of ram. my bottom end pentium 4 presario came with 128 mb and the slowest hard drive in the world. Office XP/2002 and Windows XP both called for 128mb minimum as far as I remember, so a lot of the machines were targetting that number.

Even our pentium 3 had 512mb as far as I recall. I couldn’t imagine a P4 with less than 1Gb So of course I checked. It’s bizarre that they ever sold them with 128mb…

I had a Pentium 4 and it was purchased with 512MB of RAM, so I don't have to imagine it with less than 1GB. I was living the adventure.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202655

I like that it’s there, but sadly Apple thinks you need to wait through a dissolve animation that’s equally lengthy, for some reason.

I agree that it's mildly infuriating.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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The best I've seen so far yet far from perfect when you try to actually do it. Just look how ugly do the window menus hot keys underlines look even on the screenshot. And that's not the only quirk even there, and there will be more on your actual machine.

There also is (or, perhaps, was? I haven't cheecked for a year) a problem with GTK3 apps which don't get skinned this way even if they use uncustomized window decorations.

In fact it fascinates me how hard it appears to restyle your widows to look like whatever you want.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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I'm a big fan of this aesthetic. If you appreciate the usability of W95 without needing a pixel perfect copy, it's very easy to theme KDE to strike a really good balance. As your global theme, use 'Reactionary'. Set your application style to 'MS Windows 9x'. For your icons, use 'Memphis98'. For cursors, 'Hackneyed (scaleable)'. Your Plasma style, colours, and window decorations should all follow your global theme (Re…

> If you appreciate the usability of W95 without needing a pixel perfect copy

My experience suggests "not pixel perfect" usually means severely imperfect to the point of very ugly when Linux WMs try to imitate Windows 95. "Redmond" themes have been around for decades, always ugly as hell, only reminding of Windows 95 very loosely.

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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I'll second the parent's experience, it's actually kind of insane how fast XFCE is. With the Chicago95 theme, the feeling you end up with is: "how fast would Windows 95 be if you ran it on modern hardware" It is actually just astounding, to the point that you end up feeling "jesus is my hardware really that fast?".

Is it stock XFCE, or do I need anything else? Can I just install xubuntu-desktop and that's it?

Xubuntu was mentioned, which is nice. Some folks might also enjoy the Linux Mint XFCE version, which I personally run: https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=307

(more or less Ubuntu sans snaps, though their Cinnamon desktop is also reasonably okay, even if not quite as snappy as XFCE)

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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Is it stock XFCE, or do I need anything else? Can I just install xubuntu-desktop and that's it?

Xubuntu was mentioned, which is nice. Some folks might also enjoy the Linux Mint XFCE version, which I personally run: https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=307 (more or less Ubuntu sans snaps, though their Cinnamon desktop is also reasonably okay, even if not quite as snappy as XFCE)

I can never grok the differences between Mint, Pop!_OS, and elementary OS. What do you like about Mint?

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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I'm a big fan of this aesthetic. If you appreciate the usability of W95 without needing a pixel perfect copy, it's very easy to theme KDE to strike a really good balance. As your global theme, use 'Reactionary'. Set your application style to 'MS Windows 9x'. For your icons, use 'Memphis98'. For cursors, 'Hackneyed (scaleable)'. Your Plasma style, colours, and window decorations should all follow your global theme (Re…

> If you appreciate the usability of W95 without needing a pixel perfect copy My experience suggests "not pixel perfect" usually means severely imperfect to the point of very ugly when Linux WMs try to imitate Windows 95. "Redmond" themes have been around for decades, always ugly as hell, only reminding of Windows 95 very loosely.

I don't think experience is relevant here, unless it's the same person doing that who made the previous ones. Maybe asking for a screenshot would help you discover if this one is good or not?

Re: Chicago95 – Windows 95 Theme for Linux

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The last time this theme was posted here I had just replaced my Win 7 machine with a Linux machine running XFCE so I decided to install it for kicks. 5 months later and I am still using it. The "why" is simple: I've used Windows far longer than Unix/Linux, back to the early 90's with Win 3.1. Navigating the menus is almost second nature and familiar icons for notepad and others lead me right to the programs I need. Me and my brother did tons of gaming in Win 95/98 and setup our first LAN on 98 with a Netgear kit and our friends would come over for 1v1 DM - those were the days. Its a nice mix of nostalgia, familiarity and simplicity.
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