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Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by RamblingCTO »

TheDong wrote: post #11
gbraad wrote: post #8

I might have missed something, but the page is very simplistic and assumes you know what Matrix is and how to use this; a lot of time is spent on the installation through different means, but none how to use the server itself, either by use of a client?

The first link on the page is to matrix.org. matrix.org links to clients: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ You probably would want element. I think conduit's page is doing the right thing. It doesn't really assume you know what matrix is, but rather assumes you're smart enough to click on a link if you don't know.

Hard disagree. One of the worst landing pages I've ever seen. What exactly is it? Just a backend? Client? Don't waste my whole screen with the logo and a wannabe catchy phrase. Just tell me the gist

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

Freie_Messenger wrote: post #96
erinnh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first thought was: „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP, so I will tell you what I like about Matrix. - modern chat solution with features people have come to expect from Slack and Discord - many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin) - lots of great communities are on matrix - pretty good voice chat - open source…

> „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP > My question to you would be: what do you like about XMPP? Same things & more: - modern chat solution with features people have com to expect from WhatsApp - many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin) - many great messengers have discovered XMPP as a great base for their system…

What are your favorite clients? My issue with XMPP is that many clients lack modern conveniences, and it's not easy to get people on board for that reason.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by Arkanosis »

timokoesters wrote: post #124
Arkanosis wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Timo! I've been using Conduit for 10 months now and I love it. Thank you so much for it! I've two questions: - Is there any concern to have with regards to its future when you finish university? You seem to be by far the most active contributor and I'm worried the project is still dependent on how much time you can afford to put into it; - What is the best way for a Rust / Linux developer to do a first impactful c…

Thank you for the kind words! 1: I can't say how much time I will have for Conduit, but I think the project is in a good shape and I think it can reach a stable release without me working full time on it, but of course it will take longer. 2: I think a good way to start is to hang around in the Conduit Matrix room and see if any issues pop up. Often these are relatively simple things like "these logs should have more…

Thank you for your answer.

1: That's a relief :)

2: I've just joined `#conduit:fachschaften.org`; we'll see if I can help somehow.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by progval »

rglullis wrote: post #94
leetnewb wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used conversations (and derivatives), gajim, dino, converse.js, and movim to have omemo encrypted xmpp conversations; and I talk to people on Siskin and have used profanity in the past. Seems to work properly, unless I'm missing something.

Now try to make a voice and/or video call.

Does any Matrix client support voice/video calls other than Element (including Hydrogen as it shares Element Web's codebase)?

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by MattJ100 »

DoItToMe81 wrote: post #142
Freie_Messenger wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP > My question to you would be: what do you like about XMPP? Same things & more: - modern chat solution with features people have com to expect from WhatsApp - many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin) - many great messengers have discovered XMPP as a great base for their system…

What are your favorite clients? My issue with XMPP is that many clients lack modern conveniences, and it's not easy to get people on board for that reason.

Which modern conveniences do you find are lacking, out of curiosity?

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by timokoesters »

rjvs wrote: post #140
timokoesters wrote: post #82

Hello, I'm Timo and I started the Conduit project a few years ago. Feel free to ask some questions.

Hi Timo, is there a document somewhere that describes how Conduit compares feature-wise to Synapse or to the Matrix spec? It’s not clear to me if the goal to develop a fully-featured matrix server, or if there is some subset of scale or functionality that you’re aiming for; could you comment on that?

Hi, the goal is to create a fully-featured server that works seamlessly with all Matrix clients. The one notable exception is that we will not implement support for "outdated" room versions, which means that there are some rooms that are unjoinable because they are too old, those should be upgraded to a more recent room version.

I'm also prioritizing features needed for smaller instances, instead of things like user management or horizontal scaling.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by timokoesters »

progval wrote: post #144
rglullis wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now try to make a voice and/or video call.

Does any Matrix client support voice/video calls other than Element (including Hydrogen as it shares Element Web's codebase)?

Fluffychat supports it too. Check out https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/, you can click the clients for a feature list.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by kitkat_new »

EgregiousCube wrote: post #59
erinnh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first thought was: „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP, so I will tell you what I like about Matrix. - modern chat solution with features people have come to expect from Slack and Discord - many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin) - lots of great communities are on matrix - pretty good voice chat - open source…

What is a good way to discover great communities on Matrix?

This is the way to go:

https://matrixrooms.info/

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by kitkat_new »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #57
erinnh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first thought was: „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP, so I will tell you what I like about Matrix. - modern chat solution with features people have come to expect from Slack and Discord - many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin) - lots of great communities are on matrix - pretty good voice chat - open source…

> what do you like about XMPP? - plenty of fast native clients - server resource usage - simplicity of the protocol, especially the encryption

> - simplicity of the protocol, especially the encryption

only simple for developers though - due to the lack of Cross Signing it is very difficult to keep communication secure.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by kitkat_new »

Freie_Messenger wrote: post #84
gbraad wrote: post #8

I might have missed something, but the page is very simplistic and assumes you know what Matrix is and how to use this; a lot of time is spent on the installation through different means, but none how to use the server itself, either by use of a client?

> ...assumes you know what Matrix is ... Matrix is a chat protocol. It works like chatting over GIT (distributed databases) and is more like a team messenger like Mattermost or Zulip. Conduit is a server software and not for end users. More information about Matrix: https://www.freie-messenger.de/en/matrix

> and is more like a team messenger like Mattermost or Zulip.

if at all, Element is this.

Matrix doesn't really care about what type of users the clients target

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