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LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cite please. I think you've mistaken neutron feed sourced medical imaging radionuclide from low energy research reactions for cold fusion e.g. https://www.itnonline.com/content/fda-approves-additional-mo... NorthStar produces non-uranium based Mo-99 in collaboration with its manufacturing partner, the University of Missouri Research Reactor (MURR), in Columbia, Mo., using neutron capture technology.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtfUeip4vyA&t=335s

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Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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It is interesting to see how much of the replication is done by the Chinese and how little is done by the Western countries. Is this the difference between the making-stuff-happen attitude and the sclerotic attitude?

In one of the notes it says

> Red phosphorus cannot be obtained on short notice from a new customer in the USA due to DEA restrictions

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Saw some people hyping up markets where people are betting on prediction markets whether or not LK-99 will replicate. Can't help but feel like that money would be better spent just paying off some labs to actually try to replicate the process. The response I got from a predictions market enthusiast was that having a sufficiently large market would motivate people to attempt to have the process replicated and buy opti…

Just making a bet does not really spend the money, it will just change hands, presumably from the less informed to the more informed, who should be able to eventually spend it more wisely. As far as forcing the outcome, if it turns out to be possible, but the market got it all wrong, there is your incentive to give it a shot regardless.

> making a bet does not really spend the money, it will just change hands

Pretty sure most people would call the money changing hands "spending" that money.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Assuming LK99 is legitimate, my hope is that the principles that make it work are more broadly applicable - and with that, refined production processes or newer alloys can be found. Simply knowing that it's possible would lead to a huge amount of research immediately focusing on this kind of thing. There's nothing more revolutionary than a discovery of a new class of materials. After all, we often name eras throughou…

> There's nothing more revolutionary than a discovery of a new class of materials. After all, we often name eras throughout our history after them :) (Stone age, etc) I wonder what was involved in the discovery of stone.

Being in the wrong place, at the wrong time. ;)

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Saw some people hyping up markets where people are betting on prediction markets whether or not LK-99 will replicate. Can't help but feel like that money would be better spent just paying off some labs to actually try to replicate the process. The response I got from a predictions market enthusiast was that having a sufficiently large market would motivate people to attempt to have the process replicated and buy opti…

That's not all that different from how the financial crisis came to be: derivatives on top of bad loans. Here it is bad bets on top of a possible phenomenon that probably none of the participants in the bets have any insight in.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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For such an important discovery (if it is real), that seems it could be replicated in a few days, if I were the team that did the discovery, I would create a video recording of the whole process and all the measurements and share it with the textual article. It sounds like that would provide for an easier way to replicate plus more proofs of the discovery.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cite please. I think you've mistaken neutron feed sourced medical imaging radionuclide from low energy research reactions for cold fusion e.g. https://www.itnonline.com/content/fda-approves-additional-mo... NorthStar produces non-uranium based Mo-99 in collaboration with its manufacturing partner, the University of Missouri Research Reactor (MURR), in Columbia, Mo., using neutron capture technology.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtfUeip4vyA&t=335s

That's not "cold fusion" that's low energy fusion. It explicitly has surplus neutrons and radioactivity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_electrostatic_confi...

It's energy consuming. It's just lower energy than other methods, and it's emphatically not cold fusion.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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post #54

Saw some people hyping up markets where people are betting on prediction markets whether or not LK-99 will replicate. Can't help but feel like that money would be better spent just paying off some labs to actually try to replicate the process. The response I got from a predictions market enthusiast was that having a sufficiently large market would motivate people to attempt to have the process replicated and buy opti…

This type of instictive negative reaction to prediction markets is, unfortunately, common, but, I think, misguided. Prediction markets are one of the (or just, the?) best ways of aggregating knowledge from multiple sources and producing the best predictions. Having good legible predictions of impactful events such as LK-99 replication is extremely useful for society - it would be an invaluable input for a savvy polic…

I agree with you and think it parallels the equity market a bit.

Stock prices embody the market's collective knowledge, expectations, and emotions about a company's current and future value.

And to your point if you are blindly investing or blindly buying via instruments like ETFs you can end up subsidizing those with more/better information.

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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Been following this very closely. Seems like the one takeaway is that whatever material this is, it's interesting. It's also difficult to synthesize in bulk, which is a shame because superconductivity is not easy to observe in non-bulk materials (think: powder). Note: I have a physics degree and a little bit of condensed matter experience, but nothing like anyone actually working in the field. Just some graduate cour…

Is there's no sintering or other process that could fuse the power together into a solid? (obviously without destroying its useful properties)

Re: LK-99: The live online race for a room-temperature superconductor

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtfUeip4vyA&t=335s

That's not "cold fusion" that's low energy fusion. It explicitly has surplus neutrons and radioactivity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_electrostatic_confi... It's energy consuming. It's just lower energy than other methods, and it's emphatically not cold fusion.

Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR), AKA Cold Fusion.
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