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1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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Post by throwawaymaths »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #111
throwawaymaths wrote: post #39

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Communism is an anarchist philosophy, at it's root. If it seems a bit weird because (IIRC) this historical dialectic goes: - bourgeois revolution - Workers revolution - Bigger state - Even bigger state - Underpants gnomes - Anarchist utopia Only half joking... this is what turn of the last century communists believed.

anarchists (well maybe except for insurrectionist anarchists) believe in communism as an outcome, but they most definitely do not agree with vanguardism as a means of achieving it. vanguardism is just a kind of elitist authoritarianism.

I would phrase it this way: (non-communist) anarchists believe in communal living as an outcome

Aware that this isn't historically accurate terminology but very few people will appreciate the nuances your definitions requires, as the modern meanings have diverged

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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Post by Spooky23 »

adastra22 wrote: post #114
Spooky23 wrote: post #106

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It’s a complex event. Those were the high level options, which remove the political factors. In the context of being in the middle of bombing campaigns of cities, the moral turpitude of mass killing of people was long pushed aside. Total war meant everyone was part of the war effort. So you’re left with a couple of factors. The prospect of invasion, the likelihood of getting a peaceful settlement, and the prospect of…

The US did not accept a conditional surrender. The Japanese came to the table with a conditional surrender, the condition being that the institution of the Emperor remain in place. The US rejected it. The Japanese came back to the table and accepted an unconditional surrender. The US then kept the imperial system in place anyway.

Sounds like they got their conditions to me, with a fig leaf in front of it.

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Post by hulitu »

Baeocystin wrote: post #51
justinclift wrote: post #32

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Ugh. Clearly the author was paid by the word. That's painfully super stretched out writing. :( Couldn't even make it a 10th of the way through that without losing all interest and moving on.

I've certainly read pieces that were padded and tedious. This one genuinely, truly is not. Take the first section: every vignette is tightly constructed; you get a sense of the person, the zeitgeist of fear they were living in, and the arbitrary moment that made All The Difference. This structure is repeated point-by-point for each of the survivors, deliberately, to hammer home each element. Part II has its own struc…

There are those articles which talk about a date, and in the process you get to know the whole extended families of the victims, together with a 30 years history of the families.

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Post by ransackdev »

jorgesborges wrote: post #73
ransackdev wrote: post #65

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The movie was about the man, not the bomb, which is why it focused primarily on a man, and not a bomb. The actual testing of the bomb was a small part of the movie and the real deployments of it were but a couple sentences. The movie Oppenheimer was never a movie about Hiroshima and while I think there needs to be more coverage in general about our impact on Japan by dropping those bombs, I think giving the movie Opp…

It’s still true to say the movie lacked a cohesive story — it may have been “about the man” but it was an incoherent battery of spoken facts rather than a personal journey with growth and progression.

Some people don’t have personal growth just because time passes. Maybe that’s true for this person.

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Post by darkclouds »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #63
darkclouds wrote: post #59

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This is why history is selectively taught at schools. Here in the UK we werent taught anything about Hiroshima but whilst its portrayed as shortening the war, thats using an argument which is hard to prove. It also means that once that step is taken, ie dropping the bomb, there is no going back, the US will have to remain the dominant power for the foreseeable future in order to prevent retaliation. This then undermi…

>because of the saying, the victor writes the history books, Yeah, in all my history books, the bad guys always lost and the good guys always won 100% of the time. What are the odds of that? /s

Were you referring to the bible, the koran, the talmud and other religious texts?
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