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Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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All

Not ‘All’. Just like 90% of startups fail, it is the same with 90% of crypto startups, and AI startups will fail. The 10% remaining will continue to exist. Just stop this absolutist nonsense.

The grift continues, replicating itself as we observe the great race to zero.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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>there is no “password reset” when it comes to iris data This is the most critical part, I think. If my Iris scan is leaked (which is not hard to do, from modified Orbs, similar to credit card skimmers, to mobsters scanning people's irises under threat of death), my identity will be stolen and I can't do anything about it. Do they have at least some sort of 2FA?

I think their plan is that if you re-scan your eyes the system revokes any previous (sold/stolen) identities associated with your eyes and issues you a new one, like a password reset process. This doesn't help if someone can use a leaked hash to trigger the reset process though.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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This is a story about Sam?

https://www.reuters.com/technology/openais-sam-altman-launch...

And? I was talking to the op about their story... don't need a link to a worldcoin announcement, thanks.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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It disappoints me to see anyone discussing this on technical merits when the whole thing is a laughably bad idea. It really just needs to be buried into the ground before it gets started.

The world would be significantly worse off if it just ran on your gut instincts. In the particular case of Worldcoin it's still bad once you understand the details but that's just luck.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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> In the UK, I transfer money to my friends instantaneously and for free using just my bank account. You can do the same thing in the US. The problem is that businesses can't easily do this without collecting bank routing information from customers, which is effectively "secret" because it allows anyone to debit money directly from their bank account, so they're reluctant to provide it. What's needed is a low- or no-…

I think you are talking about a different use case to the parent. You seem to be talking about authorising businesses to take money from my account without needing further approval. A direct debit. Parent is talking about transferring money to someone else's account, which is easy and requires no secrets or authorisation.

It would be nice to have both.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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Lots of good analysis here, with the main flaw (imho) coming in last*. The WC team may be book smart, but not experienced or wise, especially in building complex systems with high integrity and assurance. They cut too many corners, take too many intellectual shortcuts, assume away too many hard problems, minimize important constraints inherent in their chosen architecture, and clearly haven't really thought it all th…

I can’t imagine how naive you have to be to not see account selling as a massive problem. Especially when your plan is to first onboard users in poor countries. Why would these people do anything other than signup and immediately sell their accounts, for what may amount to a month or two of normal pay, just for waiting in line and getting scanned. I find it crazy that they claimed their system is Sybil resistant when it had this most obvious flaw. Maybe they don’t really give a crap and just wanted to collect that sweet sweet VC money.

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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I think you are talking about a different use case to the parent. You seem to be talking about authorising businesses to take money from my account without needing further approval. A direct debit. Parent is talking about transferring money to someone else's account, which is easy and requires no secrets or authorisation.

It would be nice to have both.

Both already exist. Setting up a direct debit generally only involves filling in a form. Sending money to someone else is as simple as authorising a payment to them with their account details.

What problem needs to be solved?

Re: Worldcoin: A solution in search of its problem

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> While Worldcoin may have developed an algorithm that reliably distinguishes unique irises among its test pool, it’s not clear that it will work with a pool orders of magnitude larger. This is a really key problem. The main application of biometrics today is in cell phones, and for those we operate on the assumption that we're trying to distinguish between the authorized user and a quite small pool of non-authorized…

If the iris hash function produces a false negative, does the owner of the iris lose access to their assets?
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