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The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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To be called ”Long History” i think it should to extend beyond the current generation.

Scroll down slightly and someone else has posted an image with quotes that go back to the 1800s.

EDIT: Not sure how to link the direct link to the reply, but you can see it on this article on Snopes too: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobody-wants-to-work-anymo...

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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I found 2011 to be the most enlightening quote:

> Man, what a weird week. Unless it's on their own terms, it seems nobody wants to work anymore.

It's the only one with any acknowledgement that agreeable terms may actually be needed in order to attract people to work. It doesn't take a PhD to figure this out!

Utah Phillips, one of my favorite storytellers and all-around anarchist and hobo has a line I was reminded of:

That’s when [Fry Pan Jack] told me – you know, he’d been tramping since 1927 -he said, “I told myself in ’27, if I cannot dictate the conditions of my labor, I will henceforth cease to work.” Hah! You don’t have to go to college to figure these things out, no sir! He said, “I learned when I was young that the only true life I had was the life of my brain. But if it’s true the only real life I have is the life of my brain, what sense does it make to hand that brain to somebody for eight hours a day for their particular use on the presumption that at the end of the day they will give it back in an unmutilated condition?” Fat chance!

From the track Bum on the Rod off the album The Past Didn't Go Anywhere with Ani DiFranco https://youtu.be/-rw4sd4AuJE

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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Modern work is weird. All your energy goes into it. But at the end of the day there's no satisfaction. Just emptiness and exhaustion. So you invest your remaining time in entertainments, drugs and shopping. Frantically groping for a scrap of joy. My friends in carpentry call it "feeding the monkey". The monkey must be fed, one way or another.

>>But at the end of the day there's no satisfaction. If that's the case then you need to find a different job. Plenty of people are really satisfied with what they do at work. I've accepted lower salary for years because the job I did was really satisfying and I'm still glad I was part of it.

Blaming workers for their poor conditions is elitist and fragile advice. There are not “good jobs” available for all or most. Your cushy PMC role is contingent on miserable labor supporting it. See the contractor/full time divide at Google or Meta for instance

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

#24

As a long-time software engineer and related positions. When covid started it felt as if the world said "We worked enough we need a collective time off"

School, homework, part-time job, college, study, full-time job... it never ends.

For many of us, covid is the first taste of freedom we ever got. It was eye-opening and delivered some serious perspective.

This "not working" could be called a sane response based on good information.

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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As a long-time software engineer and related positions. When covid started it felt as if the world said "We worked enough we need a collective time off"

More like, people realized how nice their life's were if they spent less time at work. I did not understand how much my 45min x 2 commute was draining my stamina before I stopped commuting, e.g.

Yes, the commute removal definitely added a new perspective to many people who have been working in offices for many years. I ended up renting a small office near my house because working and being in the same place without any change felt dismal.

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

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post #4

Modern work is weird. All your energy goes into it. But at the end of the day there's no satisfaction. Just emptiness and exhaustion. So you invest your remaining time in entertainments, drugs and shopping. Frantically groping for a scrap of joy. My friends in carpentry call it "feeding the monkey". The monkey must be fed, one way or another.

Speak for yourself, I know many people who derive a lot of joy from their work and find it energizing, myself included.

“Not all men” type argument

Obviously rich people provide inspiration to many miserable workers to improve their conditions, doesn’t mean it’s achievable for most

Re: The Long History of Nobody Wants to Work Anymore

#29

As a long-time software engineer and related positions. When covid started it felt as if the world said "We worked enough we need a collective time off"

More like, people realized how nice their life's were if they spent less time at work. I did not understand how much my 45min x 2 commute was draining my stamina before I stopped commuting, e.g.

Agreed. I will never work a job with a >10 minute commute another day in my life. On top of the time lost, you don’t even get paid for it. It costs you time and money to go to work.
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