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GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Most importantly, she disagreed with the FSF's policy of never using any binary blob anywhere for any reason, because that was incompatible with the goal of supporting as much hardware as possible. Hence, the GNU Boot fork. But then, those guys trying to reappropriate the Libreboot name...

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Just Google "libreboot drama" and make sure to clear your schedule for the evening.

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From my own memory, trans topics had hardly any coverage in the news (= my best indicator for popularity/acceptance) 7 years ago in 2016[0]. I think widespread acceptance is a very recent thing and it somewhat seems like the T in LGBT is somewhat in its nascency. I'm willing to bet many of the people there have developed different views with the societal shifts in what's accepted as moral in the past 7 years.

All of the events that first come to mind when I think of the movement are very recent, after 2016. Like a UK teacher refusing to use a student's preferred pronouns in 2022, JK Rowling catching heat for her views in September 2019 and Canada judging a lawsuit by a trans person) when that person's identity is relevant) in 2019 too.

There wasn't any mainstream news coverage about them (whether positive or negative) in 2016, and I think the increasing news coverage since then (whether positive or negative) is a sign that they've started to gain acceptance. Negative news about a movement would only be published if those part of the movement are relevant.

I just think we can try to be more understanding of the recent past. We didn't always have the same views we do now...

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54by6w/comment/d80uu...

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #136

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Leah created Libreboot in 2014. Leah stepped away from Libreboot in 2016, after some drama between her and the FSF. Two Libreboot community members, Andrew and Sebastian, became the Libreboot maintainers. In 2021, after Andrew and Sebastian managed to go 5 years without doing a release, Leah forcefully took the project back over in order to get releases going again. Leah also started a "sister project" to Libreboot,…

She said Denis is an early contributor

My apologies. Denis contributed 2 documentation patches in 2019. That said, he is a Coreboot contributor, so it's not like he's a total outsider.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Maybe a TLDR at the top would be better. There's often some pretty crucial context that gets nuked when the entire post gets deleted.

Yeah I guess that could be better. I literally just read every comment by that user (not realizing it was the same person), thinking "oh dang this is rough" and then at the end seeing the "EDIT lol nm" and realizing I just totally got misled, AGAIN. Super uncool. If your text is proven false, I don't want to read it or even glance at it (or even have to scroll past it, or have my network/browser load it, for that mat…

You can only edit for a few hours.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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GNU Boot seems to have sent it not for anything in Libreboot itself, but to adress a web page with self-proclaimed “unofficial” GNU Boot releases. They wanted it to stop proclaiming to be “unofficial GNU Boot” releases. Understandable, if a bit antagonistic. EDIT: Courtesy of user jbit¹, this is the aforementioned web page: https://web.archive.org/web/20230719185342/https://libreboot... > 1. https://news.ycombinator.…

How can they object to "unofficial" releases of Free (tm) software when anyone can pull the code and build it.

Because trademarks still exist. But yeah, IDK why a true free (as in culture) software advocate would care.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Functional code is better than non-functional code. What good is libreboot if you can't use it? You're more than welcome to use the now-maintained notgnuboot.vimuser.org or libreboot censored if you hate binary blobs, and are also more than welcome to try to find hardware that doesn't have closed source blobs built in. I love free software, and will never stop, but "Libre" is only great in a vacuum.

Libreboot/Coreboot/etc are themselves projects which try to replace what many would consider a "binary blob" with open source code.

It's not surprising that the inclusion of (smaller) binary blobs in those projects is an issue which elicits strong feelings both ways since it goes to the core of the projects' purposes.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #69

Libreboot is such an unfortunate name, as you could also read the name as a library dedicated to rebooting a computer.

It made perfect sense at the time it started. Hell, even the OpenOffice fork was called LibreOffice.

You could certainly read "libreboot" as "LibReboot" when the project started.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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KDE is by far the better desktop, Gnome will never be great as long as they abhor choice. The "you're using it wrong" is too strong there.

and yet people love apple

People love Apple because it makes very high quality hardware, and its software is generally very reliable. They don't really like that you can't configure things. They just put up with it.

There's a whole industry of little apps that let you fix things about MacOS that doesn't really exist on Windows. Rectangle, Karabiner Elements, SteerMouse, SteerMouse, etc.

Gnome copies the worst things about MacOS.

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