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Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

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Post by kartikrao »

sgdesign wrote: post #24
rokhayakebe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably one of the most powerful ideas I have read in a long time. It could be applied to your website data, as well as email data, lifestyle data, financial, etc...

Glad you like the idea! It does seem a bit like one of those all-encompassing "boil the ocean" ideas, but PG's last post made me think maybe those ideas are worth considering after all!

We've built a product for publishers called "MediaAdapt"

Dynamic vendor agnostic tags for analytics, adserving and targeting. You can mix n match, add / modify providers easily. http://www.adinfinity.com.au

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

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Post by twakefield »

eli wrote: post #9

Here's my free idea: An email service provider (ESP) that caters specifically to B2B and B2C newsletters (I'm thinking 100k to 10mil+ messages a month). It's crazy that this doesn't exist. MailChimp and similar have pricing that does not scale up. Meanwhile MailGun and similar do not have the analytics or list management that publishers need. They are geared towards transactional messages, not newsletters. Lyris/Emai…

I guess we need to do a better job on our messaging because Mailgun does have Mailing Lists[1] and recipientevent level analytics[2] that you can aggregate by just tagging messages. We are working on improving the GUI in the control panel for marketing folk, but for now developers can enjoy these for 0.1x cost of typical email marketing services now through our APIs.

[1] http://documentation.mailgun.net/api-mailinglists.html [2] http://documentation.mailgun.net/api-campaigns.html

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

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Post by true_religion »

franze wrote: post #28
true_religion wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with the new analytics program?

you can't answer the question "how is our (organic, brand, paid, cpc, ...) traffic doing (compared to yesterday, last week, last month, last year, ...)?" anymore without consulting the Calculator.app. it makes answering complicated questions easy, and answering simple questions complicated. it was probably designed by a committee (consisting of mostly adwords managers) - a committee that does not use the product itse…

Compare to past still exists, and you can set up reports for the more complicated questions that you need to ask.

However, your example is something that you can do easily in the main interface. Go to traffic sources > search > organic or paid then use compare to past in the timeline.

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Since this seems to easy, I'm sure I'm missing the point of what you meant.

But I used Analyitcs for years before the switchover, and I like the new version much better.

The improved form of Visitor Flow alone is worth it. Site Search tracking and Site Speed are great as well.

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#34

Post by Abdussalam »

saiko-chriskun wrote: post #19

I might be willing to do the coding for #2 if someone else has experience in the area and can help with the design/direction of the app :)

Hit me up sometime...a designer who just doesn't seem to get the hang of coding :P http://abdussalam.pk abdussalam.rafiq@gmail.com

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#35

Post by bigiain »

true_religion wrote: post #16
franze wrote: post #11

please steal this ideas, too: google analytics with out the new google analytics (the old google analytics interface using the google analytics API) .. as soon as google sunsets the old version (what they wanted to do last jan) there will be a lot frustration (as the new GA - currently - sucks, hard) huge market (there will be millions and millions of frustrated users) - can easily be a premium market (5$ to 25% per…

What's wrong with the new analytics program?

One thing all my clients are screaming about is "Where did the email report as pdf option go?"

That's been on the "coming soon" list ever since the new interface launched - no sign of it yet…

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#36

Post by herrherr »

bigiain wrote: post #35
true_religion wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with the new analytics program?

One thing all my clients are screaming about is "Where did the email report as pdf option go?" That's been on the "coming soon" list ever since the new interface launched - no sign of it yet…

Shameless self-plug:

www.getmetricmail.com :D

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#37

Post by eli »

twakefield wrote: post #32
eli wrote: post #9

Here's my free idea: An email service provider (ESP) that caters specifically to B2B and B2C newsletters (I'm thinking 100k to 10mil+ messages a month). It's crazy that this doesn't exist. MailChimp and similar have pricing that does not scale up. Meanwhile MailGun and similar do not have the analytics or list management that publishers need. They are geared towards transactional messages, not newsletters. Lyris/Emai…

I guess we need to do a better job on our messaging because Mailgun does have Mailing Lists[1] and recipient event level analytics[2] that you can aggregate by just tagging messages. We are working on improving the GUI in the control panel for marketing folk, but for now developers can enjoy these for 0.1x cost of typical email marketing services now through our APIs. [1] http://documentation.mailgun.net/api-mailingl…

I would be glad to take another look at Mailgun. Can you easily do segmenting (i.e. Only send this message to people where Job Title == 'CEO')? I think that may have been the dealbreaker when I last looked. Exposing the user's mail agent in analytics would also be nice.

And although I wish I could say all I need is a kickass API, I actually will need a GUI suitable for marketing folks too. Happy to followup privately since my requirements may be slightly unique.

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#38

Post by franze »

true_religion wrote: post #33
franze wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can't answer the question "how is our (organic, brand, paid, cpc, ...) traffic doing (compared to yesterday, last week, last month, last year, ...)?" anymore without consulting the Calculator.app. it makes answering complicated questions easy, and answering simple questions complicated. it was probably designed by a committee (consisting of mostly adwords managers) - a committee that does not use the product itse…

Compare to past still exists, and you can set up reports for the more complicated questions that you need to ask. However, your example is something that you can do easily in the main interface. Go to traffic sources > search > organic or paid then use compare to past in the timeline. ----- Since this seems to easy, I'm sure I'm missing the point of what you meant. But I used Analyitcs for years before the switchover…

>organic or paid then use compare to past in the timeline.

and get a useless total number(!!) - which you have to translate into percentage trends via the calculator.app

analysis is never about total figures, it's always about trends.

>Site Search tracking existed before >and Site Speed are great as well. a nice feature, these new featured (if they work bug free) are great, but most of the time they have bugs - and the stuff that the old version did good, do not work anymore.

the new GA is a textbook case of "second system syndrom"

oh, and not forget that they stop basing the x-axis at 0, but at at the lowest figure of each chart, meaning you can't visually scan different graphs for visual patterns.... and so the tour the force that the new GA is continues.

Re: Tell HN: Steal my ideas

#39

Post by molsongolden »

wgx wrote: post #18

These are all really good. Great to see so many giving ideas away. I've put a few on my blog over recent months in case anyone's interested: http://willgrant.org/category/idea-dump/ I know one (Wavetees) is being turned into an actual product.

Thar be some good ideas here mate, thanks for sharing.
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