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Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by dpkonofa »

rgoulter wrote: post #29
KennyBlanken wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My god, the narrative. "Apple is doing this just to fuck with users, fuck apple" etc over and over despite zero evidence as to their intention here. One sane person comes up with the more likely explanation: > That implies to me the calibration is unique to each screen and a proper repair has a calibration setup step? And someone just dismisses that perfectly logical explanation completely out of hand, declaring 'all…

> [USB-C is a connector] literally designed to break just like every USB connector before it. Do you have any evidence USB-C is literally designed to break? That seems like an extraordinary claim to me.

It seems conspiratorial but consider that the companies making the standards and manufacturing the cables have an incentive to get people to buy as many cables as possible and to do so regularly. It’s the same complaint that people leverage against Apple normally - that Apple designs their Lightning cables to be fragile so that people are forced to replace them. I don’t think there’s actually strong evidence for either argument. I have USB cables that I’ve had for years and then I’ve had cables that I had for a few months that went bad or were poorly made. I’ve mostly had good luck with my Apple cables and never had a problem with chargers or headphones like some.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by HumblyTossed »

xethos wrote: post #38
HumblyTossed wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am so tired of people who interpret Apple's actions purely as anti-consumer fuckery. Even to this day, people still claim that "apple made people's phones slow down as they got older, so they would have to buy new ones" despite it being widely covered that Apple, like other phone manufacturers, slows down the CPU when they detect the battery's internal resistance rising to prevent brownouts so that the phone is u…

>> *Plenty of Android handsets just randomly start crashing as the battery's internal resistance goes up.* I had one. A Google Nexus 6. > What they did was chase thinness and so they didn't include an adequate power source for the processor they were using. Your comment might apply to Apple, but an iPhone was hardly the only handset that crashed as the battery stopped being able to keep up under load.

I still have several android phones from that era (LG G2 for one example) that are used for various purposes and theyre fine even today.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

dotnet00 wrote: post #25
anyfactor wrote: post #21

Tangential rant. Has tablet computer really improved since the last Google Nexus 7 tablet, which was released in 2013? Seriously, I was in the market for an affordable tablet, and quite bizarrely the tablet computers today have significantly underwhelming spec compared to a phone of the same price point. There is no budget tab from known manufacturers. Even at IPad level prices, the android counterpart is quite under…

Not exactly a budget tab, but I've found the S8 Ultra (and the S7 FE before that) to be pretty great. The S8U managing to make having a laptop entirely unnecessary (since I'd only need a laptop away from home and I mainly WFH). With Android there has been a long period of stagnation with only Samsung doing custom stuff like DeX, multi-tasking stuff and striking deals with various productivity apps for Android ports t…

> only Samsung doing custom stuff like DeX,

Motorola has phones that do the same and without a proprietary dock.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by jeffbee »

anyfactor wrote: post #21

Tangential rant. Has tablet computer really improved since the last Google Nexus 7 tablet, which was released in 2013? Seriously, I was in the market for an affordable tablet, and quite bizarrely the tablet computers today have significantly underwhelming spec compared to a phone of the same price point. There is no budget tab from known manufacturers. Even at IPad level prices, the android counterpart is quite under…

The pencil is the differentiator. I would not get an iPad today if I could not use it for art. And it is amazing for art.

I did have a Nexus 7 and it was great. I used it to hold my cached maps on motorcycle adventures. But these days you can get a "phone" that's practically as large as a Nexus 7 was, has way more storage, better battery life, and better performance. A Pixel 7 Pro has a display 80% as large as the Nexus 7, but in 40% of the volume.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by KennyBlanken »

rgoulter wrote: post #29
KennyBlanken wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My god, the narrative. "Apple is doing this just to fuck with users, fuck apple" etc over and over despite zero evidence as to their intention here. One sane person comes up with the more likely explanation: > That implies to me the calibration is unique to each screen and a proper repair has a calibration setup step? And someone just dismisses that perfectly logical explanation completely out of hand, declaring 'all…

> [USB-C is a connector] literally designed to break just like every USB connector before it. Do you have any evidence USB-C is literally designed to break? That seems like an extraordinary claim to me.

It is very difficult to damage a lightning port by sticking something into it because the contacts are deep inside the port and only the tiniest bit is exposed, enough to mate with the plug, and the male plug has zero moving or bending parts:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8059819/ve...

In fact, it's remarkably easy to clean a Lightning port and the common advice is "just stick a toothpick in." There's almost no risk of damaging the pins inside. It's also very easy to inspect for debris.

Meanwhile with USB-C, you have a very, very thin piece of plastic in the center with contacts on either side, coming out very close to the face of the connector, so you end up with shit like this happening:

https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/hadimg_usbc_...

Further, the retention mechanism for Lightning is incredibly simple and durable. A large clip that snaps, either side, into large detents on either side:

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/6wSwQD...

On USB-C they do something kinda sorta similar, but instead of being around the outside of the connector and thus nice and beefy (and protected - there's no way to bend or deform the ends), it's tiny little prongs inside the connector, completely unsupported mechanically and exposed to being bent by debris in either connector, or something being jammed inside.

Further: look at the plugs and connectors. The male lightning connector? Really it just needs to be the right thickness and the pads need to be in the right places. The female connector is similarly very simple. The retention mechanism is also very obviously low-tolerance.

Look at the design of the USB-C connector and imagine the long list of tolerances needed to get it to work right because you have the entire working guts of the device-side connector in the center of said connector going into the plug.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by iudqnolq »

rgoulter wrote: post #29
KennyBlanken wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My god, the narrative. "Apple is doing this just to fuck with users, fuck apple" etc over and over despite zero evidence as to their intention here. One sane person comes up with the more likely explanation: > That implies to me the calibration is unique to each screen and a proper repair has a calibration setup step? And someone just dismisses that perfectly logical explanation completely out of hand, declaring 'all…

> [USB-C is a connector] literally designed to break just like every USB connector before it. Do you have any evidence USB-C is literally designed to break? That seems like an extraordinary claim to me.

The USB-c male connector is deliberately designed to break so that if you stress a plugged in setup you'll break the cable instead of the connector soldered into your phone, which is harder to repair. Maybe they misinterpreted that?

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by LanternLight83 »

anyfactor wrote: post #21

Tangential rant. Has tablet computer really improved since the last Google Nexus 7 tablet, which was released in 2013? Seriously, I was in the market for an affordable tablet, and quite bizarrely the tablet computers today have significantly underwhelming spec compared to a phone of the same price point. There is no budget tab from known manufacturers. Even at IPad level prices, the android counterpart is quite under…

> Has tablet computer really improved since the last Google Nexus 7 tablet, which was released in 2013?

I wouldn't know, I'm still using my second N7 with Lineage OS.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by squeaky-clean »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #43
xethos wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> *Plenty of Android handsets just randomly start crashing as the battery's internal resistance goes up.* I had one. A Google Nexus 6. > What they did was chase thinness and so they didn't include an adequate power source for the processor they were using. Your comment might apply to Apple, but an iPhone was hardly the only handset that crashed as the battery stopped being able to keep up under load.

I still have several android phones from that era (LG G2 for one example) that are used for various purposes and theyre fine even today.

I had an LG G3 and after 2 years it would die when the battery got to ~30%. Thankfully the battery was user replaceable. But LG is not immune to this.

I'm surprised an LG G2 would even run for 10 minutes today unless it's had the original battery replaced.

Re: Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on replaced iPad screens

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Post by dotnet00 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #44
dotnet00 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly a budget tab, but I've found the S8 Ultra (and the S7 FE before that) to be pretty great. The S8U managing to make having a laptop entirely unnecessary (since I'd only need a laptop away from home and I mainly WFH). With Android there has been a long period of stagnation with only Samsung doing custom stuff like DeX, multi-tasking stuff and striking deals with various productivity apps for Android ports t…

> only Samsung doing custom stuff like DeX, Motorola has phones that do the same and without a proprietary dock.

You don't need a dock, proprietary or not for DeX on the tab at least, it's just a button there, and I've been able to just use a regular old random dock for external display, external keyboard etc.

Haven't tried with phone though.

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