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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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Post by mvkel »

thesz wrote: post #137

My personal trainer once told me that athletes that become alcoholics belong to either endurance sports of various kinds or to archer or pistol shooting. The shooting sportsmen use small amounts of alcohol to reduce tremor [1], and small amounts of alcohol became bigger with time. [1] https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jhe1972/14/2/14_2_99/_p... The situation in endurance sports is very different. Very elevated cou…

Elite endurance athlete here. I definitely experience hangovers on the rare occasion that I drink.

That said, was just on a cycling trip where one of the riders drank two bottles of wine to himself and was flying the next day.

Might it be something about high vo2, not just "being an endurance athlete"?

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Post by thisgoesnowhere »

miduil wrote: post #109

I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

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Post by shaunxcode »

thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143
miduil wrote: post #109

I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

It’s also ok to be completely sober. In general if someone tells you they are sober it’s not a great idea to suggest they have a drink on occasion.

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Post by pstuart »

GordonS wrote: post #38
chasebank wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're right. I've always wondered why they don't water down GHB to be the equivalent of a low ABV drink. The only scary thing about GHB is its relative potency to volume. It's honestly a wonderful drug.

Didn't David Nutt suggest this several years back? I seem to recall hearing he was really trying to make a go of it too.

Yes, but I think the rebranding of GHB as "the date rape drug" did not help promoting it.

I tried it once but didn't feel anything -- it would be nice to give it another go.

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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Post by yogurthewise »

thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143
miduil wrote: post #109

I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

Agreed, I didn't stop drinking, but I cut way back on alcohol. I've found it greatly improved my health + well being.

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Post by momirlan »

gniv wrote: post #47
bluefishinit wrote: post #4

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I was first introduced to 3% beer in Norway. It was crazy expensive (due to taxes on alcohol) and really good. I was disappointed that I couldn't find anything similar in the US.

i went to a shop in Norway, and the assistant was very helpful, telling me all about the local beers on the shelves. i got my picks and went to the checkout. he's waiting for me, and with a straight face says "I can't sell you beer, it's past 6PM".

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Post by yurishimo »

shaunxcode wrote: post #144
thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

It’s also ok to be completely sober. In general if someone tells you they are sober it’s not a great idea to suggest they have a drink on occasion.

I think their point was to a more general audience not the gp in particular.

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Post by Arch-TK »

thisgoesnowhere wrote: post #143
miduil wrote: post #109

I've been three+ years sober, really can recommend. Life is much different now, things that used to be fun aren't anymore - but I'm making strong connections nevertheless.

I think we are overcorrecting to the extremes. You don't have to be sober or crippling drunk you can have a drink once in a while and it's fine.

I think most people who say "I've been X years sober" are usually recovering alcoholics (or almost alcoholics). In most cases (except the cases described above), alcoholism is something people are predisposed to. Some people get a high from the process of getting drunk (and stop feeling that high once they are no longer getting more drunk) these people are the ones who usually become alcoholics if they don't just decide to stay sober permanently.

As someone (e.g. me, and presumably you) who does not feel that high, it can be difficult to comprehend how some people feel like they end up on one of the two extremes.

Then there are some people who have done something inappropriate, dangerous, illegal or otherwise unacceptable when drunk and decided to sober up permanently because they can't control themselves when they do get drunk (but otherwise do not have a drinking problem).

I agree that totally rejecting alcohol is probably not useful life advice for most people, but hopefully the above explains why it is useful for some people.

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