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Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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There are two main advantages of having two sensors: a) Data quality: You can detect if one sensor fails as the two readings will start to deviate and then replace the faulty one b) Extend the life of the monitor: The PM sensors with the laser and optics have a limited life. By having two inside, you can alternate the measurement and put them in sleep mode inbetween. Thus extending the life of the monitor.

Just a note: can you stagger the sensor time a bit unevenly? Instead of 50%/50% time split, can you do something like 40%/60%? This reduces the risk of both sensors failing at once because they have approximately the same duty time.

Considering it is open source, you could do this :)

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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How good is the calibration for your temperature and humidity sensors? I'm absolutely miffed by the poor-quality sensors that are off by 10% humidity and 2-3C of temperature. I bought several sensors to try and find the best ones, and now like a man with two watches I'm never sure what the actual time is.

Most of the times the sensor modules are actually pretty accurate but the heating up of the enclosure e.g. from heat radiated by the MCU creates the issues. In our indoor monitor it took us several months to get the airflow through the enclosure right so that the temperature and humidity sensors are very close to ambient.

My Xiaomi one has exactly that problem.

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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This is random but I’d love to hear more about what’s involved in designing an enclosure and getting it manufactured at scale.

The tooling for the plastic enclosure was quite complex and time consuming. If there is interest I can write a blog post about it.

That would be a interesting topic!

If you write it, people will read it!

I am one of those many people who will read it.

"Sharing is caring"

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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I don't see any benefit in this product having two identical sensors side by side. Based on the datasheet, the reading between sensors is quite consistent, meaning that there's no improvement in accuracy. What would be better is to have two different sensors, one of which actually counts PM 10.0. A little-known fact about these air quality sensors is that they don't actually measure three different particle sizes, th…

There are two main advantages of having two sensors: a) Data quality: You can detect if one sensor fails as the two readings will start to deviate and then replace the faulty one b) Extend the life of the monitor: The PM sensors with the laser and optics have a limited life. By having two inside, you can alternate the measurement and put them in sleep mode inbetween. Thus extending the life of the monitor.

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Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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I don't see any benefit in this product having two identical sensors side by side. Based on the datasheet, the reading between sensors is quite consistent, meaning that there's no improvement in accuracy. What would be better is to have two different sensors, one of which actually counts PM 10.0. A little-known fact about these air quality sensors is that they don't actually measure three different particle sizes, th…

My outside sensors sometimes get contaminated from pieces of spider webs. It can be really hard to distinguish this from otherwise dirty air in a single sensor system, but when you have two you know something is wrong with one of them. A quick clean with the vacuum and both agree again.

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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I'm the founder of AirGradient and last year we have decided to focus our company on open hardware air quality monitors that we produce professionally. Our outdoor monitor Open Air has been designed from the start as an open hardware project with a beautiful plastic injected enclosure to demonstrate that open source hardware can look and perform on the same level like traditional products. We do also work intensively…

A battery backed solar powered unit would be ideal for installation where power is not readily available. Scheduled WiFi or the addition of LoRa would also be a benefit. Nice project.

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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I don't see any benefit in this product having two identical sensors side by side. Based on the datasheet, the reading between sensors is quite consistent, meaning that there's no improvement in accuracy. What would be better is to have two different sensors, one of which actually counts PM 10.0. A little-known fact about these air quality sensors is that they don't actually measure three different particle sizes, th…

There are two main advantages of having two sensors: a) Data quality: You can detect if one sensor fails as the two readings will start to deviate and then replace the faulty one b) Extend the life of the monitor: The PM sensors with the laser and optics have a limited life. By having two inside, you can alternate the measurement and put them in sleep mode inbetween. Thus extending the life of the monitor.

> You can detect if one sensor fails as the two readings will start to deviate and then replace the faulty one

But how do you know which one is the faulty one?

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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I'd be a buyer if you had an indoor unit with a radon sensor.

Why would you want a radon sensor in a product that does constant monitoring? Radon concentration is not a transient state, and you need to measure it for a fairly long time to get a good idea of the true concentration.

Doesn’t your second sentence adequately explain your first sentence? Something that does constant monitoring would surely be good at measuring for a “fairly long time”.

Re: Open Source Outdoor Air Quality Monitor

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The EPA had some money from the recovery funding and then the inflation reduction act to do more air quality monitoring stations - the EPA gave out 132 awards around the country, my city got one and we're putting up 68 sensors around town (one in each census tract) - the program and the awardees are here, if you're interested in seeing if your city got one: https://www.epa.gov/arp/arp-enhanced-air-quality-monitoring-…

> (My city is using QuantAQ sensors, which weren't cheap)

will your data be publicly available in near real-time? as far as I can tell, airnow.gov only has data from airports. will you share this data with the epa somehow?

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