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I'm pretty sure the IE and Firefox teams get together regularly. I don't think the same sense of comraderie exists between the IE and chrome teams.
Not that I know any of the parties, but what makes you think that?
It's really hard to parse articles from OSNews, Groklaw, and by Redhat employees about Microsoft and Windows 8, specifically, to try and filter out the bias and hate and cut to the chase. First, the very first line. >And thus, Microsoft bites itself in its behind with Metro. Uh what? Putting the supposed conclusion as the first line as if the the headline says everything? (BTW the headline is pretty obtuse, even for…
>Why don't these same people complain about third party browsers being completely banned on the iPad which has a huge share in the tablet market? There are many third party browsers available on the App Store for iPad. I'm not sure where you got the idea that they're "banned"?
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/02/building... and http://www.brianbondy.com/blog/id/129/
It's really hard to parse articles from OSNews, Groklaw, and by Redhat employees about Microsoft and Windows 8, specifically, to try and filter out the bias and hate and cut to the chase. First, the very first line. >And thus, Microsoft bites itself in its behind with Metro. Uh what? Putting the supposed conclusion as the first line as if the the headline says everything? (BTW the headline is pretty obtuse, even for…
I am also having a hard time trying to understand the author. The author seems to think that Firefox is in big trouble in the post-PC world but then tries to blame MS for that, when MS has specifically made allowance for third party browsers? I know MS is the favorite whipping boy in the blogosphere but why does MS deserve blame for Firefox being in trouble?. He seems to realize that Firefox will have a good chance i…
Before the IBM PC showed up, there already was a thriving ecosystem of 8-bit PCs running CP/M by Digital Research. These had compatibility on several levels: CPU architecture (Intel 8080 + clones like Zilog Z80), operating system calls (CP/M had a simple API in the form of interrupts), user interface (same CLI everywhere) and also hardware expansion (a standard bus for add-on boards).
The MS-DOS ecosystem largely followed this model. Large parts of MS-DOS, including the API and the CLI style -- those drive letters too -- were in fact borrowed from CP/M to make porting existing software easier. (There was a thriving CP/M productivity software market with apps like WordStar and VisiCalc.)
IBM wasn't really happy that their PC had been cloned and turned into an open market, and a couple of years later they tried to regain control with a semi-closed platform called PS/2. It also included a new OS co-developed with Microsoft called OS/2. The whole strategy never quite came together and eventually Microsoft went their own way.
If you want to understand what's going on, then go to the source. Either read the Microsoft documentation or read the documentation coming from an actual browser vendor working on this. At Mozilla, we talk about what we're doing so you're likely to get the best information with us. http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/02/building... and http://www.brianbondy.com/blog/id/129/
Which is exactly why I always link to the source. Always check the source material, whether you agree with an article or not. Most people on HN (and OSNews) do so, luckily.
It's really hard to parse articles from OSNews, Groklaw, and by Redhat employees about Microsoft and Windows 8, specifically, to try and filter out the bias and hate and cut to the chase. First, the very first line. >And thus, Microsoft bites itself in its behind with Metro. Uh what? Putting the supposed conclusion as the first line as if the the headline says everything? (BTW the headline is pretty obtuse, even for…
>Why don't these same people complain about third party browsers being completely banned on the iPad which has a huge share in the tablet market? There are many third party browsers available on the App Store for iPad. I'm not sure where you got the idea that they're "banned"?
On the one hand the author seems to be criticizing Microsoft for insisting on a set of ecosystem standards, on the other hand the criticism is for creating a kludge.
It's 2012 and the OS is in beta, any comparison of the development of of third party browsers to those of the Netscape days is absurd. These days Microsoft provides a browser to round out their product line and to facilitate the user's ability to engage the internet immediately following a fresh install.
Browsers are so ubiquitous as to appear on feature phones. They are commodities, not strategic tools in the quest for OS market share.
It's really hard to parse articles from OSNews, Groklaw, and by Redhat employees about Microsoft and Windows 8, specifically, to try and filter out the bias and hate and cut to the chase. First, the very first line. >And thus, Microsoft bites itself in its behind with Metro. Uh what? Putting the supposed conclusion as the first line as if the the headline says everything? (BTW the headline is pretty obtuse, even for…
Since the Metro environment imposes numerous restrictions that would hinder the development of a decent browser, Microsoft has created a new application class, called "Metro style enabled desktop browser". On the one hand the author seems to be criticizing Microsoft for insisting on a set of ecosystem standards, on the other hand the criticism is for creating a kludge. It's 2012 and the OS is in beta , any comparison…
IE10 metro is fast and has a great UI. But it lacks flash and plugins. Some people will switch to FF to use the plug ins. Some people will use Chrome Metro (They will eventually build one) to use the Google account integration and app store. So at the end of the day Browsers are just like any other app. Whats the big deal?