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1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about. Not SPOILERS Mediocre politics, sex, boredom biopic.

I disliked the anarchism erasure of portraying the Spanish civil war as a "communist party" cause (the authoritarian vanguardist type of communism that the movie focused on)

Good point, was it understood in the US as anarchism at the time, though?

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Shell shock" becomes a euphemism when you're talking about people traumatized by something other than artillery. PTSD is more general, and therefore more precise in the general case.

Euphemism means using softer words. Getting shellshock from a machine gun is not an euphemism

The context of this conversation is people who were traumatized by an atomic bomb. I think atomic bomb to artillery qualifies as such a softening.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

#23

This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about. Not SPOILERS Mediocre politics, sex, boredom biopic.

A movie about Oppenheimer's life should be about... the immediate fallout of the bomb on the Japanese population?

I think his role in that overshadows the rest of his life.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Shell shock" becomes a euphemism when you're talking about people traumatized by something other than artillery. PTSD is more general, and therefore more precise in the general case.

Regardless, PTSD is a terrible term because it's non-descriptive. It also makes it more difficult for a person to be empathetic to a sufferer of PTSD because it's not an on/off switch and more of a spectrum. A term like "shell shock" illustrates the actual trauma and enables people to be understand better why a person might act the way they do. It is often easier for a person with PTSD to describe themselves as a "vi…

Personally I think “post traumatic stress disorder” is more descriptive and accurate than “shell shock”. The person isn’t shocked, they’re traumatized. Also it turns out different things can make sense to people in different ways. Probably the term is less important than the understanding.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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In light of the release of Oppenheimer, people have been talking about, basically, the other side of the development of atomic weapons. John Hersey's "Hiroshima" article from the August 23, 1946 edition of the New Yorker came up as the definitive piece on the immediate impact of the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima, and it is a gripping read: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1946/08/31/hiroshima

Yes, although they touched on the impact of the bomb on Japanese civilians a little, they didn't really do it justice, and it's a shame because I think it would have really provided an important insight on why Oppenheimer's views changed over time.

The movie lacked a cohesive story anyway, so that would have added some meaning.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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post #25

"The bomb didnt beat Japan, Stalin did" https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-jap...

That garbage piece of writing completely ignores nearly 80 years of conventional history which includes first-hand account from the very Japanese council cited in the story.

Absolute joke content that doesn’t belong on a site like this.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

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I'm sure the title was truncated for length, but missing "screening in Tokyo" gives a very different impression of what the story is about.

I thought some new film was being made by Hollywood with 88,000 extras filming a scene tomorrow.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

#29

This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about. Not SPOILERS Mediocre politics, sex, boredom biopic.

>This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about

The movie called "Oppenheimer" is mainly about Oppenheimer (shocking, right?), it's not about "the bomb", otherwise it would have been called "Trinity" or "Manhattan" or something.

If you want to see a movie about "the bomb" don't watch Oppenheimer.

Re: 1953 'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, screening in Tokyo

#30
There is also an excellent documentary called The Day After Trinity. It is IMO well balanced and has interviews with a lot of the physicists who actually worked with Oppenheimer at Los Alamos, and a few who went to Japan after the blasts to document the aftermath.

It is on the Archive: https://archive.org/details/thedayaftertrinity/thedayaftertr...

Also worth mentioning is the BBC podcast The Bomb:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08llv8n/episodes/downloads

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