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Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

Birds won't be happy, unfortunately. Yet, better than wrecking Earth's cycles by pumping to much garbage in the atmosphere like we do today.

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #10
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123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

If they do break the sound barrier, that's also when the efficiency drops iirc. So I guess they'll switch it to a heavier load or RPM, or apply the brakes? Not sure how that works for a wind turbine

I presume the pitch is adjustable, so unless the mechanism fails you can just relax the pitch like pointing a sailboat directly into the wind to depower the sails.

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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Curious about what is the upper limit. How much can we go beyond 16 MW before physics laws put a cap on size?

We need to figure out how to get things to spin in space really fast - like some piezioelectrical fan blade turbine that takes advantage of the extremes in differential temps?

@Twosdai - I was talking about space generators, there is no air. So how get spin, from temperature diffs that can turn a turbine/generator?

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #11
post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

Birds won't be happy, unfortunately. Yet, better than wrecking Earth's cycles by pumping to much garbage in the atmosphere like we do today.

Not trying to pick a fight but just posting because I hear this often from my friends, re birds being happy.

The choice, if between coal-fired plants and windmills should be pretty obvious to birds. Sure we may not see them getting splashed to bits with coal-fired plants but they are silently getting ill/dying over time.

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

Do you transport something like this in pieces, or as a single blade?

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #10
post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

If they do break the sound barrier, that's also when the efficiency drops iirc. So I guess they'll switch it to a heavier load or RPM, or apply the brakes? Not sure how that works for a wind turbine

Rotating blades like this should never go beyond the critical Mach number where local airflow on the blade upper surface reaches Mach 1.0 (about Mach 0.8ish). The shockwaves that form are attached to the surface and like to shift around with slight changes in conditions, which cause awful vibrations. I'd expect the blades to be braked in some way to never exceed critical Mach number.

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #10
post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

If they do break the sound barrier, that's also when the efficiency drops iirc. So I guess they'll switch it to a heavier load or RPM, or apply the brakes? Not sure how that works for a wind turbine

Isn't there a great resistance to overcoming it? So basically it would stop accelerating before ever crossing it.

But, AFAIK, windmills wre immobilized when the wind gets too strong, in order to protect them. If the tech allows it, they can also be made to catch less window. Some Dutch wind mills could be rotated, and the cloth covering the arms could cover less surface. Modern windmills adapt their position automatically. Look at [0] and search for "Ten Have / Beckers".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windmill_sail

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

Do you transport something like this in pieces, or as a single blade?

A German company says they can transport blades of up to 100m length as a single piece [1]. For longer things I'd guess there is no option other than to manufacture them on site or near-site, as the Danes are doing for offshore projects [2].

[1] https://www.doll.eu/de/produkte/schwertransport/nachlaeufer-...

[2] https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/wirtschaft-von-oben/wirtscha...

Re: The world’s largest wind turbine has been switched on

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post #5

123 meter blades, that’s insane. This means the tip of the blade travels 772 meters in a single rotation. The speed of sound is 340 meters per second, meaning if it travels more than 0.44 rotations in a second, the tips of the blades are breaking the sound barrier.

Do you transport something like this in pieces, or as a single blade?

The blades are transported in single pieces, on trucks with steered rear carriers, as in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpZ5V4HrK4
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