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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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I love the idea of the nasal naltrexone. Naltrexone has been known for years to reduce the number of drinks consumed (by blocking opioid receptors).

I wish we could figure out a better system for accessing medications like this — like perhaps allowing pharmacists to prescribe low risk medicines in more states.

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

#42

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

In theory yes but the problem is many people here (England) end up picking the session beers and then drinking 10 of them.

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I read something a while back where the owner/CEO/VP/Head Brewer of Sam Adams, who was expected to go to certain beer/brewing events and basically have a beer with each vendor, would eat a packet of yeast beforehand. He claimed it allowed him to make his rounds and sample everyone's beer without getting drunk/hungover.

Sadly, debunked:

https://www.mashed.com/439154/can-eating-yeast-really-preven....

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post #3

Smart to frame it as synthetic alcohol instead of as a drug because the US has decided that substances that make you feel good are tools of the devil. The one that really gets me is pain killers. I had to recover from surgery in the hospital for a few days where I couldn't do anything but lay there and focus on the pain. The only thing they we're allowed to give me was Tramadol which I can only describe as "it doesn'…

The war on drugs has done incredible damage to chronically ill, and patients suffering severely. The amount of relief patients could get from debilitating pain was far better in the 1800s than it is today.

People often end up rehospitalized or denied care entirely because their pain or anxiety goes unmanaged or because they "might maybe be drug seekers".

Our current laws have fast tracked ordinary people to heroin or otherwise dealers. Difficult to imagine that wasn't part of the point of them...

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the purpose of live if you won't allow yourself to enjoy it a bit? So yeah, I'll do it, have fun and socialise with my friends. Of course within bounds, we're adults after all. I bet/hope there are less harmful alternatives out there but unfortunately there's not a lot research afaik on different chemicals.

Other substances are gaining popularity specifically because people are learning enough about them to have a conversation beyond grade school scare campaigns. People are objectively noticing that they can get a social lubricant without a hangover, without liver damage, without esophageal damage, without lung damage (not an alcohol thing, just a reference to smokers of anything), and that alcohol is more toxic than mo…

Could you share what some of these substances are?

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

#47

I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I was first introduced to 3% beer in Norway. It was crazy expensive (due to taxes on alcohol) and really good. I was disappointed that I couldn't find anything similar in the US.

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#48

I've switched to alcohol free beers. They're a bit sweeter but for me it's fine.

Likewise! I'm trying not to drink much anymore. But I always want something cold and fizzy. So it's a switch between refrigerated carafes of water, seltzer, and zero-alcohol beers. Although I feel incentivized not to have even the zero-alcohol beers since it's still 60 calories. While the seltzers I find are 0. Any beer recommendations? I haven't tried much outside of the locally-supplied zero-alcohol Heineken and Co…

My favorite is Run Wild from Athletic Brewing Co.

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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Smart to frame it as synthetic alcohol instead of as a drug because the US has decided that substances that make you feel good are tools of the devil. The one that really gets me is pain killers. I had to recover from surgery in the hospital for a few days where I couldn't do anything but lay there and focus on the pain. The only thing they we're allowed to give me was Tramadol which I can only describe as "it doesn'…

Substances that make you feel good are for the elite youth when attending Harvard, Yale, Oxford, … not for the regular joe.
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