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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by idiotsecant »

nordsieck wrote: post #361
zh3 wrote: post #316

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I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

> I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products I don't know about other people, but I went iPhone specifically for the value/$. Got a used iPhone SE 2020 for $150 in late 2021, and expect to use it for 5+ years. I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. It really helps that Apple's CPU/SoC is substantially superior to what everyon…

I think there are a lot of Android devices that fill that niche. I've owned several.

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Post by QuarterReptile »

121789 wrote: post #340
QuarterReptile wrote: post #331

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I think Apple's strong claim is security, not privacy.

they claim privacy very strongly. you can see billboards or commercials where privacy is their only selling point

Sorry, I don't really follow their advertising campaigns. I just mean that they can't make a valid claim for privacy, unless you agree to the idea of being private only when Apple likes...

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by QuarterReptile »

howinteresting wrote: post #345
QuarterReptile wrote: post #331

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I think Apple's strong claim is security, not privacy.

??? https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/03/14/privacy-thats-iph...

Sorry, I don't really follow their advertising campaigns. I just mean that they can't make a valid claim for privacy, unless you agree to the idea of being private only when Apple likes...

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Post by QuarterReptile »

OO000oo wrote: post #348
QuarterReptile wrote: post #331

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I think Apple's strong claim is security, not privacy.

The 3 story "Privacy. That's iPhone." billboard down the street from me suggests otherwise.

Sorry, I don't really follow their advertising campaigns. I just mean that they can't make a valid claim for privacy, unless you agree to the idea of being private only when Apple likes...

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by rootsudo »

JohnFen wrote: post #457
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #443

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You must have gone without security or other OS updates then, which I would consider a deal breaker with a phone. Google only recently extended the Pixel OS support timeline to be on par with Android.

Yes, I don't care about getting updates. If they're important to you, that's fair. But the phones don't suddenly stop working without updates. They're still perfectly fine.

The phones do stop working properly, e.g. unicode doesn't work, and unsupported android OS's aren't no longer developed, not to mention security updates.

It's risky, especially in todays world where financial information is stored endlessly on a cell phone. 5 years+ for iphones make a very nice deprecation curve / alongside a viable resell market. It's nice to sell a 2yr old iphone for 70-80% of it's purchase price and then buy a new one and not have to worry about anything for another 5 years.

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Post by 121789 »

ksec wrote: post #604
sib wrote: post #351

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>> This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. That's generally what a "market share" number measures: the share of sales during a period of times. The number of users of devices would be the "installed base."

>That's generally what a "market share" number measures: the share of sales during a period of times. We don't measure Browser Market Share as number of downloads during a period of times. Nor do we measure OS market share as number of license sold during a quarter. The reason why Market Share, or share of sales during a period of times were used for commodity, repeatable sales. Because knowing you have 50% of Ketchu…

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I've worked with these phone manufacturers and they often used the term market share to refer to share of sales / shipments / whatever over a monthly or quarterly time period. I think there is flexibility in the term.

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Post by guideamigo_com »

arkitaip wrote: post #151
djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

Interesting, this is what I'm considering too after exclusively using Android+Windows since forever. The enshittification of Windows is mainly what has changed my mind - worse privacy, UX, forcing users to use online accounts - but also life seems more simple when you only have Apple to consider instead of whatever shenanigans that Microsoft and Google throws at you. Furthermore, the UX of the Apple eco system seems…

Lock-in on Mac OS is much less for developers. Than lock-in for users on iPhone.

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Post by Projectiboga »

lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

Also kids favor Ios, they like messenger and they play games with each other when they are in the same room, I'm just paraphrasing my 14 year old. So maybe it just reflects more new entrants? As in kids getting their first phone, whereas the older cohort might be more evenly distributed.

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Post by skydhash »

superfailboat wrote: post #422
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Hot take: I find recent Samsung flagships far superior to what Google offers, especially the latest S23: small and speedy with longer SW support than a pixel, better CPU/GPU and better cameras, at a decent price. Bloatware and Android implementation is also not too bad. Also Samsung DEX can save your bacon in case your laptop dies and you don't have a spare but need a quick desktop experience for some multitasking pr…

This. Dex is Samsung's killer feature - but noone seems to know about it!? It's especially relevant to developers. It's now common to see monitors that have an integrated usb hub - so no docking station needed. Just plug your phone in via one cable, it will charge, send video, and use keyboard+mouse. You can have a 4k60 desktop, and then run termux and almost achieve a desktop-equivalent development environment. Unfo…

Or I can get a proper workstation (which I already have because I need it for proper work) which will run circle around the dex. Have you tried to run Android Studio with a big project? You need some good computing power for indexing the code and building it.

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Post by scarface_74 »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #342
lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

The Android market is way way harder to pin down than the iPhone market. Manufacturers have been walking out software support horizons in the Android world, which should have an impact. To the extent that Android users have shifted toward Samsung and Pixels, that would also tend to walk out the software support window of the Android cohort. And finally, last year there were crazy sales that I don't think have been as…

Another sign of the HN bubble. Google only has lifetime sells of 27.6 million pixels over 6 generations

https://www.phonearena.com/news/pixel-7-pro-6a-google-best-s...

Apple is estimated to sell twice that many in a quarter

https://www.statista.com/statistics/299153/apple-smartphone-...

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